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10-09-2012, 05:45 PM
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Take the red pill
Join Date: Oct 2008
Bikes: '09 R1
Location: USA
Posts: 4,634
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Originally Posted by quick kurt
I was told 10,500 as well,directly from Chuck Graves himself. Check the Graves site and ck. the forum,I asked the same question a few months ago and Charles Graves was the first to reply with the answer. Flashtune or Eculeashed based drjak ? If you live near anyone with the F/T interface I'm sure they'd be happy to do yours for a few  even mail it to them. |
Flashtune. They'll keep reflashing it for free so I see no need for the interface as my PCV and Autotune will handle fuel. $200 buys a lot of postage 
I called them today just waiting to hear back.
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10-10-2012, 06:51 AM
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#42
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performance first
Join Date: Sep 2003
Bikes: 2005 Raven, 2010 Raven
Posts: 2,754
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Good to see you quantified what we all felt with the graves stacks. 10,500 swithover ahhh. I had mine flashed to 10,200. Time to relfash. How much of a difference did you see from the to swithing points from 10,200 and 10,500?
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10-10-2012, 07:52 AM
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#43
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damn turkeys
Join Date: May 2006
Bikes: 04 R1
Location: indiana
Posts: 27,598
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even though it's not for the same year, glad i got mine used for 100 bucks 
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10-10-2012, 09:41 AM
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#44
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Take the red pill
Join Date: Oct 2008
Bikes: '09 R1
Location: USA
Posts: 4,634
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Originally Posted by rorytsm
even though it's not for the same year, glad i got mine used for 100 bucks |
I paid quite a bit more than that for mine on the '09 and they were used 
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10-10-2012, 10:36 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Jun 2006
Bikes: Yamaha R1 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bryan niles
Good to see you quantified what we all felt with the graves stacks. 10,500 swithover ahhh. I had mine flashed to 10,200. Time to relfash. How much of a difference did you see from the to swithing points from 10,200 and 10,500?
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I cannot recall the exact numbers on each RPM setting, to many runs and result to keep all data. All of them was very much the same until opening point.
I cannot explain way, but top end power went down 0.7-1.5 HP on other settings than 10.500 RPM.
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10-10-2012, 10:41 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Jun 2006
Bikes: Yamaha R1 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 139
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Intake cam is from Kent Cams in UK ( www.kentcams.com), exhaust cam is made by Pete Beale. I don't know what he has done with it. Probably some jumbo mumbo black magic because it is really good!!
Last edited by sharan; 10-10-2012 at 11:08 AM.
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10-10-2012, 10:43 AM
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I RACE U LOSE
Join Date: Oct 2011
Bikes: 2000 R1 SOLD & 2006 R1 50th Anniversary & 2012 R1 50th G.P. Anniversary#145
Location: Philly now Langhorne Pa.
Posts: 2,491
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Just deleted that question,Thanks for replying.
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11-06-2012, 11:04 PM
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#48
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Just made this great wheelie.. did you see it?!
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 31
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Originally Posted by sharan
It seem that the R1 09-11 likes to be run rich and not too lean.
Anybody else have experience on other AFR Targets?
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yep.. not much hp in MR12 over U4 either.
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11-06-2012, 11:07 PM
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#49
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Just made this great wheelie.. did you see it?!
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 31
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Originally Posted by quick kurt
If it feels good use that map, I have tried 12.8 - 13.2 map building on my '06 w/Bazzaz ZAFM setup building maps. I can't tell the difference anyway its so close, they are safe a/f ratios for safety's sake anyway.
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you may not see the hp nor feel the difference in 12.8 to 13.2 but i promise on shitty us fuel your 5 valve will! the 5 valve does NOT like to be over 13.0 a/f on a dj250 air fuel ratio.. we have seen detonation in summer on bikes "tuned" to 13.2-13.3 when ridden on say a track day. just saying, keep it safe on the 04-06's for sure....big flame spread in those cc's
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11-06-2012, 11:12 PM
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Just made this great wheelie.. did you see it?!
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drjak
OP 10,500 switchover point for the uppers? I have the graves uppers and lowers going in this week and was told 10,200 RPM on the stock motor. Can you tell us where you got that 10.5k switchover point from? I have to send my ECu off this week for flashing so I really need to know!
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on a stock engine 10-11k works fine. you wont notice a 300 rpm difference just be sure to tune the fuel correctly after you have flashed. Base flashed maps rarely are spot on...have it tuned..
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11-06-2012, 11:17 PM
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#51
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Just made this great wheelie.. did you see it?!
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharan
I have a R1 2009 as a track bike. For years we (R1 09-12 riders) have been waiting for some documentation from Graves to give us some facts for their velocity stacks. They have literarily been giving us smoke screens and avoided to give proper answers. Their behavior has been arrogant by my opinion.
Those who have bought the stacks, installed them have just said it made a difference – but never given us some dyno charts.
Tired of waiting for proper answer, from otherwise a good supplier, I got hold of some used stacks.
I installed them and today I dyno'ed before and after.
Below you can see the result.
Some info:
It’s the same engine, same dyno, same temp etc. The only difference is velocity stacks.
The spec for the engine is given to me by Pete Beale from UK, and I have promised not to disclose it. So please don’t ask.
I got tired of tuners destroying my engine, therefore I build the engine myself – every single piece.
Edit: Hired the dyno and fuel tuned it myself 
Enjoy J
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beautiful curves!! I bet Pete has more than a "few" hours in the head! plus gotta be running the YEC springs as you can't put any cam in them with stock springs... but some GOOD specs out there... especially if you can get the intake >250 duration and >10.4mm lift  power is all in the top end of these things from what i have seen/done.. head's a mess stock.
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