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11-08-2012, 12:27 PM
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Smog Block Off Plates. Use Them Or Don't Use Them...?
So I am building my 09 R1 up, and I've seen a lottt of talk about the smog block off plates. I personally will probably throw a set of Driven plates on mine for future dyno tuning along with the reduction of any backfiring.
So who uses them? Who doesn't? Why or why not?
Last edited by Flexxx; 11-08-2012 at 12:32 PM.
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11-08-2012, 12:37 PM
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It's just like a video game.
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Location: North West UK
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I use them, I bought some reasonably priced ones off fleabay, they stopped all the back firing and popping (that wasn’t too bad with baffles out but always sounded worse when you needed it quiet) this enabled me to sneak past the police quietly that I couldn’t do with the pump on! It didn’t feel any faster or run any different but must have lost a pound in weight off the bike
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11-08-2012, 03:22 PM
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kickin' at the darkness
Join Date: Nov 2006
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yeh i've been runnin' 'em Graves do-hickeys since i got rid of my cats..
running 3/4 leo vince with reflash.. now happier than ever... only get
slight gurbly pop pops when entering a corner under engine breaking...
before the re-flash n' AIS delete, it would backfire like a sumbiatch...
friends could barely ride behind me as it would try n' rip their heads off
every time i used compression... hahaha...
they're so cheap i dont see why anybody would opt not to run 'em..
takes a little mechanical know how to replace'em but its par for the course.. may as well learn
to do yer own spark plugs.. its only 1 more step to get at 'em...
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weighs 420lbs, 160rwhp!
Dynojet PCV
Leo Vince EVOII sbk CF cans / tips
Leo Vince y-pipe [cat elim]
GYTR air filter
graves AIS block off plates
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SHORAI LFX18 Lithium-Iron LiFePO4
SHOGUN no-cut frame slider kit
GB RACING case covers
GYTR screen
tidy tail
Watsens
6000k HID
GYTR Comfort seat
RACETECH springs forks / shock
RACETECH Gold Valve, shock
OHLINs FORK PISTON KIT
Carbon Lorraine pads
HEL SS lines
Last edited by bacchus40; 11-08-2012 at 03:24 PM.
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11-08-2012, 03:31 PM
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R1der
Join Date: Jan 2011
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I'm running grave block offs on my 06 and it made a huge difference in back firing popping.
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11-25-2012, 06:57 PM
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Death's Handshake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bacchus40
they're so cheap i dont see why anybody would opt not to run 'em..
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I like the popping. 
Mind you, they are just subtle little pops, and not backfires like you would expect from a beater.
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11-25-2012, 08:03 PM
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I <3 My Honda
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Do I need the plates or can I just disable the system with the flash?
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11-25-2012, 10:03 PM
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kickin' at the darkness
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minacious
I like the popping. |
yeah i did too, when i was like 15 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fastkx125
Do I need the plates or can I just disable the system with the flash?
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get the plates... like i said you may as well learn to do your own spark plugs while you're in there...
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'09 R1
weighs 420lbs, 160rwhp!
Dynojet PCV
Leo Vince EVOII sbk CF cans / tips
Leo Vince y-pipe [cat elim]
GYTR air filter
graves AIS block off plates
ECUnleashed w/ Custom Tune, 158rwhp {thanks Nels!}
SHORAI LFX18 Lithium-Iron LiFePO4
SHOGUN no-cut frame slider kit
GB RACING case covers
GYTR screen
tidy tail
Watsens
6000k HID
GYTR Comfort seat
RACETECH springs forks / shock
RACETECH Gold Valve, shock
OHLINs FORK PISTON KIT
Carbon Lorraine pads
HEL SS lines
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11-26-2012, 02:15 AM
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Death's Handshake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bacchus40
yeah i did too, when i was like 15 |
Well, I haven't been 15 in a very long time. Hell, I guess that's why a lot of kids like exotics, since quite a few of them do it to. 
I actually think we're talking about 2 different events. My last R1, which had plates, among many other mods, still made the sound that I am referring to.
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11-26-2012, 02:57 AM
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Extended Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minacious
I like the popping.
Mind you, they are just subtle little pops, and not backfires like you would expect from a beater. |
+1
Dave
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11-26-2012, 09:21 AM
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B Group ALL-STAR ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastkx125
Do I need the plates or can I just disable the system with the flash?
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You can do either, however Flash-Tune recommends you eventually remove the AIS and replace with plates. 
You will still get some popping, but not as much...
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11-26-2012, 09:35 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Sep 2011
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The way I see it, it's an environmental thing. If you already took out the cat, then it's useless and not helping much anyway. Might as well get rid of the extra clutter.
I far prefer the clean sound as well. Bike only pops on very hard engine breaking now. Imo, excessive popping just sounds like an out of tune bike.
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11-26-2012, 09:38 AM
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ROWDY
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Location: Arkansas
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I don't run them, After the flash I get a pop now and then, like the M1 does on the track, usually it is during a shift with the HR Quick shifter.
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11-26-2012, 09:49 AM
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Yamaha blue, in any color.
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If you want the tuner to be able to accurately read your A/F, get the plates. The AIS injects air into the exhaust which will make tuning a little more challenging.
The lack of decel pops is a plus.
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11-26-2012, 10:54 AM
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Death's Handshake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanQ
If you want the tuner to be able to accurately read your A/F, get the plates. The AIS injects air into the exhaust which will make tuning a little more challenging.
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Good point.
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11-26-2012, 03:20 PM
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Hooligan
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Location: Ireland
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Block the pipe it's cheaper... Once there blocked they flame :0)
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11-28-2012, 09:11 PM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Mar 2012
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I needed them
I have a 2012 and I wasn't going to get them until I got the auto tune for my power commander, if you run an auto tune it won't read the Air fuel ratio correctly without the plates. So if your running a tune be it auto or on a dyno I would put them on. I got the graves ones for real cheap and they were really easy to install
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11-28-2012, 11:01 PM
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kickin' at the darkness
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minacious
Well, I haven't been 15 in a very long time. Hell, I guess that's why a lot of kids like exotics, since quite a few of them do it to.
I actually think we're talking about 2 different events. My last R1, which had plates, among many other mods, still made the sound that I am referring to. |
i was being an arse.! hahaha... yeah noh we're talking about the same thing then... thats the sound i love... but prior to a reflash and custom tune it was ugly... nasty throaty pop.... okay, so we're good thenl.,!.. 
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Originally Posted by blankrider13
I have a 2012 and I wasn't going to get them until I got the auto tune for my power commander, if you run an auto tune it won't read the Air fuel ratio correctly without the plates.
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EXACTLY! i bought my auto-tune and graves plates at the exact same time,!...
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'09 R1
weighs 420lbs, 160rwhp!
Dynojet PCV
Leo Vince EVOII sbk CF cans / tips
Leo Vince y-pipe [cat elim]
GYTR air filter
graves AIS block off plates
ECUnleashed w/ Custom Tune, 158rwhp {thanks Nels!}
SHORAI LFX18 Lithium-Iron LiFePO4
SHOGUN no-cut frame slider kit
GB RACING case covers
GYTR screen
tidy tail
Watsens
6000k HID
GYTR Comfort seat
RACETECH springs forks / shock
RACETECH Gold Valve, shock
OHLINs FORK PISTON KIT
Carbon Lorraine pads
HEL SS lines
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11-29-2012, 11:34 AM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Jul 2011
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I made my own out of 3/16" carbon fiber plate. They're lighter and look better.
The flash seems to mess up the picture. They look better in person.
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11-30-2012, 04:59 AM
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Take the number before I do it
Join Date: Apr 2012
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i dont mind mine it has that muscle car poping to it. but i might do it anyway for tuning purposes and everyone bitches about how loud the bike is already so what the hell pop away i guess
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