Saving money for "doomsday" or natural disaster?

[R1nStang]

Originally Posted by Meister37

That movie hurt to watch.



What are you going to do the second day? Water goes fast. 8 gallons a week to live decently, 13 to use if it's going to be long term. I have a 30k gallon reserve.



Depends on how doped up or hungry they are.

ration. the human body can go 3 days without water. I dont have to drink a gallon a day. Plus i always have a 12 pack of sodas

i said in my original post. im not stock piled for weeks. a week maybe a little longer. other than that ill start raiding the corner store down the street

[WarMachine]

Originally Posted by R1nStang

ration. the human body can go 3 days without water. I dont have to drink a gallon a day. Plus i always have a 12 pack of sodas

i said in my original post. im not stock piled for weeks. a week maybe a little longer. other than that ill start raiding the corner store down the street

Problem with the last part is the corner store will be empty by the time you need more supplies

[R1nStang]

Originally Posted by WarMachine

Problem with the last part is the corner store will be empty by the time you need more supplies

not if its a disaster and it wiped out the entire city and im the sole survivor.....at least thats what ill tell people

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by R1nStang

ration. the human body can go 3 days without water. I dont have to drink a gallon a day. Plus i always have a 12 pack of sodas

i said in my original post. im not stock piled for weeks. a week maybe a little longer. other than that ill start raiding the corner store down the street

I'm not trying to get adversarial with you. I'm just trying to explain what it takes to live. Water is a requirement that cannot be messed with. For the record, you can last 3 days without water in a temperate climate and you do very little activity. If you're caught without water during the summer heat in Texas without air conditioning and you're guarding your house against looters, you've got a good day before you see a serious performance decline. Hikers who walk the Appalachian trail during the summer will drink 3 gallons of water a day to keep up. Ask the boys freshly back from the sandbox how much water is required in a day.

[Fikays]

Originally Posted by cataclyzm123

Its not that I am worried that someone will take my supplies. Im a good shot and have plenty of ammo.
My problem is that I dont think I could refuse helping.

Would you be able to turn away a starving child?

Originally Posted by WarMachine

I would like to help but word of mouth could sink you and your supplies.

The only way to avoid having to help others is to not be seen or known. Whether that menas barricading yourself and your family in your house or living way out in the boondocks....but that is the only way to avoid folks.

Stephen is right. You may help a few grateful folks, but eventually folks who will want to take everything of yours are going to hear about it.

Originally Posted by R1nStang

ration. the human body can go 3 days without water. I dont have to drink a gallon a day. Plus i always have a 12 pack of sodas

i said in my original post. im not stock piled for weeks. a week maybe a little longer. other than that ill start raiding the corner store down the street

Have you ever gone three days without water in this kind of environment? You have any idea what soft drinks will do to your body in this situation?

[Stonewall]

Lots of lakes and ponds in my area! water is not hard to come by

[Fikays]

Originally Posted by Meister37

I'm not trying to get adversarial with you. I'm just trying to explain what it takes to live. Water is a requirement that cannot be messed with. For the record, you can last 3 days without water in a temperate climate and you do very little activity. If you're caught without water during the summer heat in Texas without air conditioning and you're guarding your house against looters, you've got a good day before you see a serious performance decline. Hikers who walk the Appalachian trail during the summer will drink 3 gallons of water a day to keep up. Ask the boys freshly back from the sandbox how much water is required in a day.

Precisely my point in my last point. during the invasion of Iraq, we were moving so fast we were ahead of the supply lines by several days. Us NCOs were rationed to two bottles of water and one MRE for three days.

That shit got ugly fast.

You can lead a horse to water........

[Stonewall]

Originally Posted by Fikays

Precisely my point in my last point. during the invasion of Iraq, we were moving so fast we were ahead of the supply lines by several days. Us NCOs were rationed to two bottles of water and one MRE for three days.

That shit got ugly fast.

You can lead a horse to water........

Man I don't see how you guys survived the heat and wind blown sand!

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by Stonewall

Lots of lakes and ponds in my area! water is not hard to come by

Gotta be careful of those retention ponds. They can be polluted with lawn chemicals, phosphates, protozoa, virus's and many other bugs. Standing water is never the best source unless it's over 4 acres and not surrounded by lawns and farms.

Buy a filter as well, 1 to 3 micron.

[Stonewall]

Originally Posted by Meister37

Gotta be careful of those retention ponds. They can be polluted with lawn chemicals, phosphates, protozoa, virus's and many other bugs. Standing water is never the best source unless it's over 4 acres and not surrounded by lawns and farms.

Buy a filter as well, 1 to 3 micron.

Filter for sure and boiling if required.

[KMac]

Originally Posted by R1nStang

. I dont have to drink a gallon a day. Plus i always have a 12 pack of sodas

Sodas are a diuretic;they'll make you waste probably half of the water you take in. You might as well drink your piss at that point.

[KMac]

Originally Posted by Meister37

I have a 30k gallon reserve.

Damn.......you gonna drink the swimming pool?

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by KMac

Damn.......you gonna drink the swimming pool?

That's the plan. We only use chlorine in the pool and change the water over every year. We drained it this year just before we winterized it. Fresh city water in there with a little Chlorine to keep it clear.

[Kangaroo]

Jason's planning on being called The Mayor of New Indy.

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

Jason's planning on being called The Mayor of New Indy.

F that. I'll be in hills of Kentucky.

[Meister37]

I started getting serious last year, this year I've enacted a plan and next year I will start rotating. Should cut our grocery bill by half.

[Creeping Death]

Originally Posted by WarMachine

And if there is a mob behind them?

That ones easy... .308

Originally Posted by WarMachine

Problem with the last part is the corner store will be empty by the time you need more supplies

An inch of snow hits the ground in Charlotte and the grocery stores are wiped out. Pathetic

Originally Posted by Fikays

The only way to avoid having to help others is to not be seen or known. Whether that menas barricading yourself and your family in your house or living way out in the boondocks....but that is the only way to avoid folks.

Stephen is right. You may help a few grateful folks, but eventually folks who will want to take everything of yours are going to hear about it.



Have you ever gone three days without water in this kind of environment? You have any idea what soft drinks will do to your body in this situation?

[Kangaroo]

Here we go with fallout shelters again.

[MANOWAR]

If you have some extra funds. Here's a stove that burns sticks for fuel AND charges your iPhone. My brother has one and it works surprisingly well. I'll be getting one soon.

http://biolitestove.com/campstove/ca...view/features/

They have a bigger one they call a HomeStove but it's not for sale yet.

http://biolitestove.com/homestove/overview/

[lobsterhound]

Ok, so here is my last ditch scenario plan:

I happen to own a 50 foot boat. It is equipped with a fresh water tank that holds 1000 gallons. An ice maker with a large hold capable of storing months worth of food. I can make ice directly off the salt water so it doesnt draw from my supply of fresh. 4 bunks, fridge,microwave,shower, head, stove, etc.... All of that runs off a Northern Lights Gen Set independent from the main power plant (850 cat). I have 2 1500 gallon fuel tanks. I dont know exactly how long I could run the gen set alone of 3000 gallons but its a damn long time. 6 months minimum.

The boat is also equipped with dual 6 foot Furuno sweep radars to monitor the horizon for any impeding danger. Every piece of communication device available for a boat. ( monitor airways) 3 massive sodium lights that could blind a possible enemy while I took shots at them. I even have a tv with a dvd player to kill time lol.

The boat is also equipped with a tail gate stern. (stern opens hydraulically) So I can easily take along a atv, truck, skiff to go onto islands etc... That could come in handy for missions on land.

And finally and most important the boat is rigged with the capability to fish for multi-species at any given time. Long line for fish, traps for lobsters, crabs etc.... Abundant unlimited food supply.

I also have numerous spare parts aboard. I could practically fix any imaginable problem that could occur. I also have a number of pumps aboard and could easily rig a bilge pump to gather more fuel at different locations. (Most lighthouses have diesel back up generators)

I assume there will be people on the water as well if all goes to hell but I figure my odds are better that way. Obviously way less people than on land. I can easily move about from place to place without worry about road blocks etc... Also having grown up on the water I would likely have an advantage over many of the other people who might try the same.

So thats my plan. Ive actually kinda done a test run. We loaded the car on the boat and took it to Florida for the winter once and used it like you would a camper