Secession petitions filed in 20 states

[ss55539]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...190210006.html

[rexmitchell]

Good way to put yourself on a(nother) government watch list signing something like that

[WarMachine]

Originally Posted by rexmitchell

Good way to put yourself on a(nother) government watch list signing something like that

[Sabian]

Grandstanders. Happened in 2004 as well. Willing to bet it's happened at every election.

[rexmitchell]

Originally Posted by Sabian

Grandstanders. Happened in 2004 as well. Willing to bet it's happened at every election.

Article said it was pretty common

[KMac]

That might as well be a ceremonial act of defiance at this point.

[Creeping Death]

Originally Posted by rexmitchell

Good way to put yourself on a(nother) government watch list signing something like that

I was tempted to sign it for about 2 seconds before I thought the same thing.

[cataclyzm123]

I sure hope California doesn't secede!!!

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by cataclyzm123

I sure hope California doesn't secede!!!

More likely to fall into the ocean. That fault line's been moving quite a bit recently.

[rexmitchell]

Originally Posted by Meister37

More likely to fall into the ocean. That fault line's been moving quite a bit recently.

Wouldn't miss it if it did

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by rexmitchell

Wouldn't miss it if it did

As long as Kate Beckinsale isn't there, I'm with ya.

[ALTON05R1]

What would any state stand to gain by seceding, also what do these states stand to lose by seceding. I am against this movement, but its interesting to see what people are saying on facebook. I have seen so many comments about moving to Canada how people want to be a different country than the US. I along with many of you guys spent years of my life defending this country just to see people on the inside of it tear it down. What has this country come to...... Rant Over

[KMac]

Originally Posted by ALTON05R1

What would any state stand to gain by seceding, also what do these states stand to lose by seceding. I am against this movement, but its interesting to see what people are saying on facebook. I have seen so many comments about moving to Canada how people want to be a different country than the US. I along with many of you guys spent years of my life defending this country just to see people on the inside of it tear it down. What has this country come to...... Rant Over

That would depend on how you view the country being torn down. Who is tearing it down? The working stiffs? The corporations? The govt? The people who want to stick to the founding principles of the country? The people who ignore the founding principles and just keep changing and changing because they believe all change is good? Who is it exactly that is "tearing it down"?

[ALTON05R1]

fIm talking about people (the everyday man and women, the politician, the military man, any citizen) that are willing to make choices without fully understanding the consequences of their choices. Most people dont realize that to have freedom they will have to sacrifice something to get it. Im not just speaking of people that want to secede from the US, I personally dont think that will every go through, I am just speaking in general.

[rorytsm]

a dude on my facebook posted this. some old liberal cunt chimed in saying secession is the most ridiculous idea ever. " I cannot believe any Americans could be that foolish. What do they want to be? The confederate states of the seriously stupid? Jeez" she's convinced the way to make a difference is to get into politics

[fjorn]

States can no longer secede from the nation. Option was removed after Civil War.

[Meister37]

H.L Mencken 1925

Dude had it pegged back then. The liberal agenda has no reason or logic to back itself. It's all feelings of hatred, envy and moral superiority.

* Liberty and democracy are eternal enemies, and every one knows it who has ever given any sober reflection to the matter. A democratic state may profess to venerate the name, and even pass laws making it officially sacred, but it simply cannot tolerate the thing. In order to keep any coherence in the governmental process, to prevent the wildest anarchy in thought and act, the government must put limits upon the free play of opinion. In part, it can reach that end by mere propaganda, by the bald force of its authority — that is, by making certain doctrines officially infamous. But in part it must resort to force, i.e., to law. One of the main purposes of laws in a democratic society is to put burdens upon intelligence and reduce it to impotence. Ostensibly, their aim is to penalize anti-social acts; actually their aim is to penalize heretical opinions. At least ninety-five Americans out of every 100 believe that this process is honest and even laudable; it is practically impossible to convince them that there is anything evil in it. In other words, they cannot grasp the concept of liberty. Always they condition it with the doctrine that the state, i.e., the majority, has a sort of right of eminent domain in acts, and even in ideas — that it is perfectly free, whenever it is so disposed, to forbid a man to say what he honestly believes. Whenever his notions show signs of becoming "dangerous," ie, of being heard and attended to, it exercises that prerogative. And the overwhelming majority of citizens believe in supporting it in the outrage. Including especially the Liberals, who pretend — and often quite honestly believe — that they are hot for liberty. They never really are. Deep down in their hearts they know, as good democrats, that liberty would be fatal to democracy — that a government based upon shifting and irrational opinion must keep it within bounds or run a constant risk of disaster. They themselves, as a practical matter, advocate only certain narrow kinds of liberty — liberty, that is, for the persons they happen to favor. The rights of other persons do not seem to interest them. If a law were passed tomorrow taking away the property of a large group of presumably well-to-do persons — say, bondholders of the railroads — without compensation and without even colorable reason, they would not oppose it; they would be in favor of it. The liberty to have and hold property is not one they recognize. They believe only in the liberty to envy, hate and loot the man who has it.

[SakiBomb]

The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.

[rocalotopus]

Originally Posted by Meister37

H.L Mencken 1925

Dude had it pegged back then. The liberal agenda has no reason or logic to back itself. It's all feelings of hatred, envy and moral superiority.

that's funny. this excerpt pegs conservatives between the eyes.

"They themselves, as a practical matter, advocate only certain narrow kinds of liberty — liberty, that is, for the persons they happen to favor."

[Meister37]

Originally Posted by rocalotopus

that's funny. this excerpt pegs conservatives between the eyes.

"They themselves, as a practical matter, advocate only certain narrow kinds of liberty — liberty, that is, for the persons they happen to favor."

Not true conservatives, just republicans. The two are not the same.