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11-13-2012, 06:03 AM
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Yamaha blue, in any color.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Bikes: 91 FZR1000, 04 YZF-R1, 05 V-Max 0098/2000, 04 Warrior, 05 R6
Location: Jacksonville, NC USA
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Originally Posted by MaRce1o
You need to adjust rebound, it is a bit too slow
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May want to look at that again bro. The wear pattern changes. There is probably more than one issue.
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Originally Posted by Gearheaded
You guys being able to read these tires is amazing to me.
Can we get some comparison shots of what certain things look like?
Someone should make a "how to - reading tires"  |
I keep saying that I will, but as it turns out when I'm at the track I'm trying to ride and make adjustments/recommendations in between. So I never get a chance at before and after pics. Plus it's not really practical in all cases to go from tire wear patterns. There are often multiple factors that need to be dressed. I posted a tire a while back of a tire that looked like hell and would have had some folks thinking multiple things were wrong. I had seen the rider get on the bike and put in into gear, and watched the chain vibrate like a guitar string. We went over and explained the chain was too tight. After he adjusted it the tire wear started to return to normal with only a slight rebound tear.
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11-13-2012, 09:09 AM
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#442
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Track time :flex:
Join Date: Oct 2008
Bikes: Red RN19, SV650(sold), 07 GSXR600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanQ
May want to look at that again bro. The wear pattern changes. There is probably more than one issue.
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No shit, didnt notice the complete opposite in the groove before, its showing both slow and fast rebound....maybe old suspension like my?
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11-13-2012, 09:31 AM
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#443
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Yamaha blue, in any color.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Bikes: 91 FZR1000, 04 YZF-R1, 05 V-Max 0098/2000, 04 Warrior, 05 R6
Location: Jacksonville, NC USA
Posts: 21,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaRce1o
No shit, didnt notice the complete opposite in the groove before, its showing both slow and fast rebound....maybe old suspension like my?
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Could be a lot of things, and that is one possibility.
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R1-016 'Venom' Squadron Member
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91 FZR 1000
04 YZF-R1
05 YZF-R6 (track bike)
05 Vmax 20th Anniversary 98 of 2000
04 Road Star Warrior
TEAM: SO FAST SO CLEAN
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11-13-2012, 09:40 AM
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#444
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 170
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaRce1o
Are you running stock suspension?
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Ya I was just running the same settings as I had on the street. Stiffened up from stock settings though.
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11-13-2012, 09:05 PM
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#445
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Herro!
Join Date: Jul 2011
Bikes: 05 R1
Location: So~Cal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaRce1o
No shit, didnt notice the complete opposite in the groove before, its showing both slow and fast rebound....maybe old suspension like my?
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Originally Posted by DanQ
Could be a lot of things, and that is one possibility.
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Yeah, it's original and not sure when the last time it was serviced and actually set up properly 
What could be the other things? 
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11-14-2012, 06:50 AM
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#446
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Go in deeper come out faster
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200/60 superbike slick...how bout some chicken chords :-)
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11-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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#447
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Yamaha blue, in any color.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Bikes: 91 FZR1000, 04 YZF-R1, 05 V-Max 0098/2000, 04 Warrior, 05 R6
Location: Jacksonville, NC USA
Posts: 21,299
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Originally Posted by SakiBomb
Yeah, it's original and not sure when the last time it was serviced and actually set up properly
What could be the other things? |
See your first statement.
Reading tires is useful when you are dealing with a known, properly setup chassis. But when you start to see multiple wear patterns evident it can point back to the basic setup and service. When I see a tire that seems to go from rebound being too slow in some areas of the carcass to being too fast in other areas it tells me that there are multiple issues. Start with basic setup/service.
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R1-016 'Venom' Squadron Member
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91 FZR 1000
04 YZF-R1
05 YZF-R6 (track bike)
05 Vmax 20th Anniversary 98 of 2000
04 Road Star Warrior
TEAM: SO FAST SO CLEAN
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01-01-2013, 11:28 AM
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#448
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BELOW M3
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
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Can you read anything on mine after my first track day ever at Jennings on a completely stock suspension set up? Let me know if additional pics are needed, thanks.
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01-01-2013, 11:33 AM
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#449
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Track time :flex:
Join Date: Oct 2008
Bikes: Red RN19, SV650(sold), 07 GSXR600
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First track day dont worry too much about tires, learn about track safety and how comfortable you are on your bike in a race track
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01-01-2013, 11:38 AM
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#450
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BELOW M3
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
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Oh, trust me I was doing just that, but I was just curious. I rented a suit and it didn't fit me right so that took a lot of getting used to itself. Can't wait to pick up my own suit and go back. 
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01-01-2013, 11:46 AM
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#451
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Track time :flex:
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 all right, were you riding the 08? If sp has the shock ever been serviced?
45 degree angle picture from there would help as well
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01-01-2013, 12:50 PM
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#452
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Fast Bikes fan #67
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These are my street tires.
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01-01-2013, 02:56 PM
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#453
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Track time :flex:
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Not much riding on them to come up with something, however the grooves are still pretty even, only see minor extra rubber rolling on the side, but knowing jennings i know why. Looks pretty good as it is, however the faster you get changes will be needed
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01-01-2013, 04:59 PM
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#454
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BELOW M3
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
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Yeah, 08 with 7k miles. Suspension has never been touched (to my knowledge, I bought it with 6200mi). I weigh 165. New Q2s, 53 laps.
It was getting dark by the time I got home so I don't know if these pics will help.
Mr. Wolfe is local to me so I hope to have my stuff set up before the next track day.
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01-01-2013, 05:06 PM
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#455
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Poor man
Join Date: Jul 2011
Bikes: Full track 2011 BMW S1000rr 2008 Yamaha R1 Ducati monster S4
Location: Green Bay, WI
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01-01-2013, 05:30 PM
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#456
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I eat my R1
Join Date: May 2012
Bikes: 2012 R1 50th Anniversary #250
Location: Singapore
Posts: 134
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Get twist of the wrist ii pdf or book. Get the video if u can.
Read it and try to apply bit by bit.
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01-01-2013, 05:36 PM
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#457
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Track time :flex:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CLAWHAMM3R
Yeah, 08 with 7k miles. Suspension has never been touched (to my knowledge, I bought it with 6200mi). I weigh 165. New Q2s, 53 laps.
It was getting dark by the time I got home so I don't know if these pics will help.
Mr. Wolfe is local to me so I hope to have my stuff set up before the next track day.
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Yeah I'll stick to my original opinion. Suspension setup for now will not change anything for you, looks pretty even.
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01-03-2013, 01:13 PM
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#458
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Apr 2006
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read mine.
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01-03-2013, 01:39 PM
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#459
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Track time :flex:
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Is that a GPA?
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01-03-2013, 05:29 PM
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#460
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Yamaha blue, in any color.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Bikes: 91 FZR1000, 04 YZF-R1, 05 V-Max 0098/2000, 04 Warrior, 05 R6
Location: Jacksonville, NC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fast4d
read mine.
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What tire, and pressure (hot) was that tire?
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91 FZR 1000
04 YZF-R1
05 YZF-R6 (track bike)
05 Vmax 20th Anniversary 98 of 2000
04 Road Star Warrior
TEAM: SO FAST SO CLEAN
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