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11-13-2012, 07:17 AM
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XSuROsISX
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Originally Posted by NoxImus
Hey guys, so I'm in the process of shopping for an AR15 or AR10... I'm not 100% sure what way I want to go yet. I understand the differences, and the pro and cons of each... still confused as hell to what I want. I personally like YHM and Black Rain... So, what do you guys think, what do you own, and what brand? If you built, what lower and upper did you go with?
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Shoulda been looking for one before the election. Colt, Noveske, LMT are all top manufacturers. A colt 6920 can be had for $1050 at my local Walmart. Stick with these 3 and you'll be fine.
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11-13-2012, 09:59 AM
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It's hard to go wrong with a sig, one of the best long term manufacturers in the business.
If you buy the REPR and want a distance rifle, get the 1-11.25 twist barrel. It's the best of the best. The 1-10 twist is great for short range and sub loads but not great for distance.
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11-13-2012, 11:26 AM
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11-13-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Meister37
It's hard to go wrong with a sig, one of the best long term manufacturers in the business.
If.
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The US made SIG rifles are nothing but garbage. Stay far far far far far far far far far far away.
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11-13-2012, 11:40 AM
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SuperModerateur
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that's pretty damn far
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11-13-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KMac
that's pretty damn far
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Yep. The quote is longer than the actual effective range of the rifle. 
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11-13-2012, 11:51 AM
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I've owned a couple, canted sights, 1/7 twist barrel, most unaccurate rifle ever unless you use 77 grain ammo which nobody does. Thing feels like an ak47 in felt recoil in your foregrip. Don't even get me started on the trigger of this hoopty weapon alondside the non locking folding stock. Then we can get into customer service oh my. The rifles did eat anything I put through it, but so does my AK, and my AK was more accurate amazingly. If you want to buy a good ar, forget piston driven it's more problems then gas. Go with a Colt, LMT or Noveske, you will not have any problems. And no CMMG is not a top tier manufacturer.
Last edited by TheButcher; 11-13-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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11-13-2012, 11:54 AM
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CMMG offers, as options, most of the same higher quality parts that Colt, LMT and Noveske provide as standard, so they definitely can produce a top tier gun.
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11-13-2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheButcher
I've owned a couple, canted sights, 1/7 twist barrel, most unaccurate rifle ever unless you use 77 grain ammo which nobody does. Thing feels like an ak47 in felt recoil in your foregrip. Don't even get me started on the trigger of this hoopty weapon alondside the non locking folding stock. Then we can get into customer service oh my. The rifles did eat anything I put through it, but so does my AK, and my AK was more accurate amazingly. If you want to buy a good ar, forget piston driven it's more problems then gas. Go with a Colt, LMT or Noveske, you will not have any problems. And no CMMG is not a top tier manufacturer.
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In a 1/7 twist barrel you wouldn't use any lighter grains anyway so that is to be expected I would think. 
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11-13-2012, 12:01 PM
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OP will be happy with an out of the box S&W.
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11-13-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fikays
In a 1/7 twist barrel you wouldn't use any lighter grains anyway so that is to be expected I would think. |
Really? So some geek off the street that has no idea about barrel twist rates wants an AR, some guy on here says hey dude get the SIG556 it rocks! Dude gets the SIG and then orders the typical 55 or 62 grain ammo that they sell everywhere, and then wonders why the weapon won't print. Well hell I didn't know I had to buy the 450 dollar a case ammo for it to work, I thought I could use the standard steel cased 223 thats $220 shipped. Truth is most people do not know shit about twist rates, they just go out and buy an AR. 1/9 all day because out of the 10 dudes I shoot with on a weekly basis none buy or reload anything but 55 and 62 grain ammo. If you wanna go for thumpin ammo, I have a sweet Smith Enterprise built m1a I'll sell you for a good price
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11-13-2012, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo
OP will be happy with an out of the box S&W.
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I'm happy with mine, it does what its suppose to. Shoot straight and not jam........ But I'm far from picky and it was meant to be a bang around gun to carry in the truck and out in the woods 
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11-13-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheButcher
Really? So some geek off the street that has no idea about barrel twist rates wants an AR, some guy on here says hey dude get the SIG556 it rocks! Dude gets the SIG and then orders the typical 55 or 62 grain ammo that they sell everywhere, and then wonders why the weapon won't print. Well hell I didn't know I had to buy the 450 dollar a case ammo for it to work, I thought I could use the standard steel cased 223 thats $220 shipped. Truth is most people do not know shit about twist rates, they just go out and buy an AR. 1/9 all day because out of the 10 dudes I shoot with on a weekly basis none buy or reload anything but 55 and 62 grain ammo. If you wanna go for thumpin ammo, I have a sweet Smith Enterprise built m1a I'll sell you for a good price
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I was agreeing with you.
I know most folks really haave no idea what they are asking about, or listening to when folks come up with a general AR related question.
And yeah, mine is 1/8 and I made sure of that so I can use light and heavy to a degree. 
/oh, and what is that price?
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11-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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11-13-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rexmitchell
I'm happy with mine, it does what its suppose to. Shoot straight and not jam........ But I'm far from picky and it was meant to be a bang around gun to carry in the truck and out in the woods |
exactly, then he can figure out what he really wants to do.
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11-13-2012, 12:28 PM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangaroo
exactly, then he can figure out what he really wants to do.
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Very true, low initial cost and doesn't have a bunch of shit that means nothing to the owner.
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11-13-2012, 12:32 PM
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I've seen that one before.
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11-13-2012, 12:35 PM
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ya it kinda fits this thread
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11-13-2012, 12:35 PM
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XSuROsISX
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Id do the smith for $1900, built on a SAI receiver, with trw bolt, trigger pack, op rod and gas assembly, smith enterprise 18.5 inch barrel and 22 inch springfield NM barrel
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11-13-2012, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheButcher
Id do the smith for $1900, built on a SAI receiver, with trw bolt, trigger pack, op rod and gas assembly, smith enterprise 18.5 inch barrel and 22 inch springfield NM barrel
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PM sent.
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