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11-14-2012, 07:20 PM
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#3441
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Frosty runs are the best
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RRA would be the max on money for it I would spend but would be well spent to give me a good idea when I build one.
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11-14-2012, 07:41 PM
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#3442
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The Lead Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes: 08 Raven R1, 97 F3, 94 VMax, 65 CA95, CRF80F, CRF70F, Cannondale F7, your mom.
Location: Indy area
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Originally Posted by BeaverPuncher
What happens if their is a lot of creep in that factory trigger.I'm a decent shot and realize the importance of a clean and crisp trigger pull. Replace everything or just the springs?
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Start with the springs, then move up on your next AR. Geiselle is the only one I will use from now on. I've used the high end JP, Wilson and RR ones and they aren't as user friendly and adjustable as the Geiselle. The more you shoot it, the better the trigger gets. You don't want a super light trigger on a battle rifle anyway.
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Originally Posted by KMac
You should be able to drop in a RRA 2-stage match trigger for around $130 I'm guessing, which will be a good trigger for the money; certainly better than what you probably have. Or, for double that you can get a Wilson TTU single stage drop in trigger that is an excellent trigger. A lot of money for a trigger in an economy gun, though.
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There are better out there for similar money, but the RRA one is a solid performer once you get used to it.
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11-15-2012, 03:49 AM
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#3443
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Born Again Patriot
Join Date: Oct 2010
Bikes: 2009 YZF-R1, Raven
Location: U.S.S.A.
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Any issues with RRA and hard mil-spec primers?
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11-15-2012, 09:39 AM
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#3444
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The Lead Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes: 08 Raven R1, 97 F3, 94 VMax, 65 CA95, CRF80F, CRF70F, Cannondale F7, your mom.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Creeping Death
Any issues with RRA and hard mil-spec primers?
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Not with the heavier DPMS hammer.
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11-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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#3445
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Viva La Figa
Join Date: Oct 2006
Bikes: 03 Liquid Silver
Location: Tha Gump {Charleston, S.C. Native}
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Just picked up my PSA for $587.00. Couldn't pass on it. Grabbed some mags and ammo as well. Gonna try to get a shoot in this weekend. 
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11-15-2012, 10:59 AM
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#3446
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INSTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
Join Date: Apr 2009
Bikes: 2003 R1 SPECIAL EDITION
Location: Pflugerville, TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk71
Just picked up my PSA for $587.00. Couldn't pass on it. Grabbed some mags and ammo as well. Gonna try to get a shoot in this weekend. |
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11-15-2012, 11:07 AM
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The Lead Farmer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk71
Just picked up my PSA for $587.00. Couldn't pass on it. Grabbed some mags and ammo as well. Gonna try to get a shoot in this weekend. |
That's dirt cheap! Let me know if you have any trouble with it, I've fixed 2 of these over the past couple months. Their QC isn't always the best.
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11-15-2012, 12:56 PM
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#3448
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Born Again Patriot
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister37
Not with the heavier DPMS hammer.
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I should have specified that it's the 2 stage NM trigger. If I want to reliably run mil surplus ammo, do I need to replace the hammer? springs? or whole trigger?
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11-15-2012, 01:04 PM
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#3449
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The Lead Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Creeping Death
I should have specified that it's the 2 stage NM trigger. If I want to reliably run mil surplus ammo, do I need to replace the hammer? springs? or whole trigger?
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It will run it. I was speaking more to just changing the springs to the 3.5# jp's
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11-15-2012, 01:07 PM
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Born Again Patriot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister37
It will run it. I was speaking more to just changing the springs to the 3.5# jp's
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That's a relief... I spent too much money already. I'd hate to have to replace the trigger. I should have some mil surplus coming soon. I'll see how it does...
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11-15-2012, 01:15 PM
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#3451
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Frosty runs are the best
Join Date: Sep 2007
Bikes: Want a new bike
Location: Nashville,Tn
Posts: 18,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk71
Just picked up my PSA for $587.00. Couldn't pass on it. Grabbed some mags and ammo as well. Gonna try to get a shoot in this weekend. |
Nice
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11-15-2012, 02:01 PM
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#3452
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INSTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Location: Pflugerville, TEXAS
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For you six 8 lovers.....lwrc landed a foreign gov contract for the 6.8 @35k rifles. At the same time Atk has built a dedicated like for manufacture of said round to the tune of 150 million rounds per year. 1 million made so far. No word on when it will hit the commercial market but at least there are moves in the works for those that want the six8 in the main stream.
Sent from my Rooted S3 fool
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"It is inconceivable that the framers - seeking to provide Americans with a means to resist tyrannical government - would fashion a right that can be exercised only in the context of a militia that is under government control." Robet A. Levy
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM]
Last edited by WarMachine; 11-15-2012 at 02:15 PM.
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11-15-2012, 03:14 PM
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#3453
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The Lead Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes: 08 Raven R1, 97 F3, 94 VMax, 65 CA95, CRF80F, CRF70F, Cannondale F7, your mom.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMachine
For you six 8 lovers.....lwrc landed a foreign gov contract for the 6.8 @35k rifles. At the same time Atk has built a dedicated like for manufacture of said round to the tune of 150 million rounds per year. 1 million made so far. No word on when it will hit the commercial market but at least there are moves in the works for those that want the six8 in the main stream.
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I heard that Magpul is designing a designated 6.8 only magazine for the LWRCI weapon.
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of every human freedom, It is the argument of tyrants; It is the creed of slaves.
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Phantom Squadron #37
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11-15-2012, 03:16 PM
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#3454
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Frosty runs are the best
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What's so special about that particular round?
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11-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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The Lead Farmer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaverPuncher
What's so special about that particular round?
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It's a perfect cross between the 223 and 300 blackout. It's the 40s&w of black rifles.
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of every human freedom, It is the argument of tyrants; It is the creed of slaves.
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11-15-2012, 03:19 PM
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#3456
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INSTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister37
I heard that Magpul is designing a designated 6.8 only magazine for the LWRCI weapon.
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Saw that on the forum as well, still unconfirmed though
Sent from my Rooted S3 fool
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sig courtesy of UNCLE PETROL
"It is inconceivable that the framers - seeking to provide Americans with a means to resist tyrannical government - would fashion a right that can be exercised only in the context of a militia that is under government control." Robet A. Levy
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM]
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11-15-2012, 03:29 PM
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#3457
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Frosty runs are the best
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister37
It's a perfect cross between the 223 and 300 blackout. It's the 40s&w of black rifles.
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Since I'm ignorant to the reasons I need a explanation.
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11-15-2012, 03:30 PM
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#3458
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INSTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
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Hey Jason check this out.......Takes the fun out of it but still cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvbyA...ature=youtu.be
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"It is inconceivable that the framers - seeking to provide Americans with a means to resist tyrannical government - would fashion a right that can be exercised only in the context of a militia that is under government control." Robet A. Levy
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM]
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11-15-2012, 03:40 PM
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INSTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaverPuncher
Since I'm ignorant to the reasons I need a explanation.
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223(9mm) 6.8(40S&W) 45(300 blackout)
Look at the 3 pistol calibers then look at this, same sort of comparison
6.8 on the left 5.56(223) on the right
It's a go between round, that will pack enough punch behind it without the worries of the slightly smaller 223 and the larger 30 cal 300 blackout.
Jason can explain it better
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"It is inconceivable that the framers - seeking to provide Americans with a means to resist tyrannical government - would fashion a right that can be exercised only in the context of a militia that is under government control." Robet A. Levy
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM]
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11-15-2012, 03:51 PM
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The Lead Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaverPuncher
Since I'm ignorant to the reasons I need a explanation.
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The 40sw is a compromise round, it's caliber and weight is between the 9mm and the 45 ACP. It's faster than the 45 but slower than the 9mm. It isn't fast, nor is it heavy so it does neither job well. Same thing with the 6.8. It's faster than the 300 blackout but with a smaller diameter and weight than the blackout. It's larger and has better penetration than the 223 but it's trajectory isn't as flat at the 223.
It's a compromise round. Better at some things than the 223 (penetration, knock down power), better at some things than the 300 blackout (Faster, better trajectory) but no the better all around than either.
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of every human freedom, It is the argument of tyrants; It is the creed of slaves.
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