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Old 11-16-2012, 06:07 AM   #8901
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I ordered a 50 rd box of .45 230gr +p HST from SG Ammo for $44.95 shipped. That's cheaper than the 165gr Hydra-Shoks from Walmart. The S&W manual says to never shoot +p+ in any S&W handgun.
I'm not gonna risk my piece with +P so I order these

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:18 AM   #8902
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I'm not gonna risk my piece with +P so I order these

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That's the same thing I have minus the +p.

The only thing the S&W manual says about +p is to not use it in any K frame revolver manufactured prior to 1950-something (misplaced the manual).

It does say that it may cause premature wear but I don't intend to use it for target practice except just a few to see how different it shoots.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:39 AM   #8903
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That's the same thing I have minus the +p.

The only thing the S&W manual says about +p is to not use it in any K frame revolver manufactured prior to 1950-something (misplaced the manual).

It does say that it may cause premature wear but I don't intend to use it for target practice except just a few to see how different it shoots.
That is fairly common. .45 pistols have two rounds, older pistols are not designed for the auto or acp rounds due to pressures and such. At least that is my understanding
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:57 AM   #8904
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The only caveat to that is that Thoracic cavity shock is what stops people in their tracks.
Exactly. I can't count how many shooting reports I've read where it was a one round affair with 357 due to shock.

.357sig doesn't over penetrate either. If you've ever taken a course where you shoot cars or through barriers, it's a real eye opener as to which rounds do the best job. Give me 357mag or 357sig any day of the week.

And the main benefit of this caliber is how flat it shoots, IE extremely accurate. I'm more accurate with it than 32, .38, 9, 10, 45, 40, etc, etc.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:43 AM   #8905
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For whatever reason, though, .357sig is losing popularity in recent years and there is becoming less and less ammo and gun models being mfr'd for it. The fact that people inherently don't believe it performs (and actually outperforms) as well as it does against the same bullet in .357 mag loads has to be, IMO, part of why it is sliding backwards. That, and lazy reloaders don't like necked pistol cartridges.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:03 AM   #8906
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For whatever reason, though, .357sig is losing popularity in recent years and there is becoming less and less ammo and gun models being mfr'd for it. The fact that people inherently don't believe it performs (and actually outperforms) as well as it does against the same bullet in .357 mag loads has to be, IMO, part of why it is sliding backwards. That, and lazy reloaders don't like necked pistol cartridges.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:45 AM   #8907
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I came across this while looking for some optics. Guy claims to have been an Infantryman for 6 years. 3 sights seem like a bit of overkill IMHO.

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:50 AM   #8908
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I came across this while looking for some optics. Guy claims to have been an Infantryman for 6 years. 3 sights seem like a bit of overkill IMHO.

Um I get the 45 degree sights but not the magnifier behind the acog

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That fvcker was shooting rabbits it looks like. Wasscally wabbits
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:43 AM   #8910
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For whatever reason, though, .357sig is losing popularity in recent years and there is becoming less and less ammo and gun models being mfr'd for it. The fact that people inherently don't believe it performs (and actually outperforms) as well as it does against the same bullet in .357 mag loads has to be, IMO, part of why it is sliding backwards. That, and lazy reloaders don't like necked pistol cartridges.
A few reasons in addition. Ammo cost is up there, less to choose from with HP ammo and the availability isn't there.

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Exactly. I can't count how many shooting reports I've read where it was a one round affair with 357 due to shock.

.357sig doesn't over penetrate either. If you've ever taken a course where you shoot cars or through barriers, it's a real eye opener as to which rounds do the best job. Give me 357mag or 357sig any day of the week.

And the main benefit of this caliber is how flat it shoots, IE extremely accurate. I'm more accurate with it than 32, .38, 9, 10, 45, 40, etc, etc.
Not to mention it will swiss cheese most police vests.
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My Pelican 1720 just showed up

Edit: Oh... and my 4) M&P extended mags.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:46 AM   #8912
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My Pelican 1720 just showed up

Edit: Oh... and my 4) M&P extended mags.
That's a spendy case right there



and let's not forget the extra mags
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:51 AM   #8913
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That's a spendy case right there



and let's not forget the extra mags
The case was $198.97 with free 2 day shipping from Amazon. It's really nice, definitely meets expectations. Now I gotta start cutting foam.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:54 AM   #8914
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And here i thought this was spendy

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That looks pretty nice for $79.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:24 PM   #8917
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Yeah, with the back pack straps and molle panels it would be great for hunting/camping.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:57 PM   #8918
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woo hooo looks like the dealer has a line on my hk45CT finally. Hoping to go pick it up any day.
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woo hooo looks like the dealer has a line on my hk45CT finally. Hoping to go pick it up any day.
Nice weapon. I prefer a compact for using a can, better balance.
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