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11-16-2012, 05:36 PM
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Dot 5 fluid
Does anyone have any experience with the brake fluid from the local parts store? Seems to be inexpensive, and It's time that I flush mine.
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11-16-2012, 05:48 PM
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damn turkeys
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what are your uses of your bike? certain brake fluids (even those dot 4 varieties) can have higher boiling points than the typical auto parts store dot 5 fluids.
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11-16-2012, 05:55 PM
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Intresting, I thought the standards would be the same across the board.
Street and a track day here and there.
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11-16-2012, 05:59 PM
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damn turkeys
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroR1
Intresting, I thought the standards would be the same across the board.
Street and a track day here and there.
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so what's your reasoning for looking at dot 5 vs sticking with dot 4 fluids?
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11-16-2012, 07:40 PM
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Mix dot 5 fluid in a system already running dot 3 or 4 and you're fukced.
You can run 5.1 but it's poo compared to the proper high end dot 4.
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11-17-2012, 02:50 AM
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What brands would you consider higher quality when it comes to D4?
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11-17-2012, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by James D G
Mix dot 5 fluid in a system already running dot 3 or 4 and you're fukced.
You can run 5.1 but it's poo compared to the proper high end dot 4.
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the only way you can run the 5 is to completely flush the system, but you will never get it all out. the 5 is silicone based and DOES NOT mix with the others. realistically the only way to run it is to have all new components.
just get the 4
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11-17-2012, 06:56 AM
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I figured with new goodridge steel lines, and cleaning the bottle and caliperS that I should be ok. I dont know.
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11-17-2012, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroR1
I dont know.
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This is the only part of your post that is correct
Stick with DOT4...there is no reason to go to DOT5 and you won't get it all out anyway
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11-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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What's a beter setup, one line from cylinder splitting into two, or two lines from cylinder running to calipers? In other words, what stops quicker and has a better feel?
Last edited by CroR1; 11-17-2012 at 01:40 PM.
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11-17-2012, 01:52 PM
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i like the one into two, but ended up getting double fren tubos
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11-17-2012, 02:02 PM
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Elaborate further please. Why?
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11-17-2012, 02:12 PM
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Elaborate further please. Why?
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differing opinions on which one works better....you won't notice a difference. Some say the 1 into 2 the pads wear unevenly on either side 
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11-17-2012, 02:32 PM
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this is comedy 
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11-17-2012, 05:55 PM
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11-30-2012, 08:03 PM
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ATE or RBF600
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12-01-2012, 09:34 AM
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Glycol-ether (DOT 3, 4, and 5.1) brake fluids are hygroscopic (water absorbing), which means they absorb moisture from the atmosphere.
silicone fluid should be used only to fill non-ABS systems that have not been previously filled with glycol based fluid. Any system that has used glycol based fluid will contain moisture; glycol fluid disperses the moisture evenly throughout the system and contains corrosion inhibitors.
Silicone fluid does not allow moisture to enter the system, but does not disperse any that is already there, either. A system filled from dry with silicone fluid does not require the fluid to be changed at intervals, only when the system has been disturbed for a component repair or renewal.
Non-hygroscopic fluids (e.g. silicone/DOT 5-based formulations), are hydrophobic, and can maintain an acceptable boiling point over the fluid's service life, although at the cost of potential phase separation/water pooling and freezing/boiling in the system over time - the main reason single phase hygroscopic fluids are used.
The United States armed forces have standardised on silicone brake fluid since the 1990s. Silicone fluid is used extensively in cold climate, particularly in Russia and Finland, as glycol based fluids have to be replaced at regular intervals.
Motul RBF 600 brake fluid (DOT 4)
Boiling point
Dry: 594F
Wet: 421F
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12-01-2012, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer Dude
Motul RBF 600 brake fluid (DOT 4)
Boiling point
Dry: 594F
Wet: 421F
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Not very likely you will boil this brake fluid over
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12-01-2012, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ss55539
the only way you can run the 5 is to completely flush the system, but you will never get it all out. the 5 is silicone based and DOES NOT mix with the others. realistically the only way to run it is to have all new components.
just get the 4
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Ive ran dot 5 in my 06. I just drained it then bleed the system. Ran like that for 2 years. No issues. Only thing with dot 5 the brakes feel a bit spongy. I was gonna go back to dot 4 but i sold it sooo.
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12-01-2012, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO
Only thing with dot 5, the brakes feel a bit spongy.
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That is good to know. Nobody want's a spongy feeling brake pedal/lever. This is more than enough reason not to use silicone based brake fluid.
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