Track Help

[Patrk4546]

Originally Posted by z064life

For what those tires are they are practically new. Most here aren't sponsored by a tire manufacturer so we run tires until they aren't any good. Look at my picture above...they are past the wear marks and the tread is gone on the side....they still passed tech and I still ran them for an entire day...

thanks! Because there is no way i can afford new tires before each event. really appreciate the input. cant wait for sunday. hopefully I can get my gopro working and post some vids

[tfs32]

I've gone through more than one set in a day

[z064life]

Originally Posted by Patrk4546

thanks! Because there is no way i can afford new tires before each event. really appreciate the input. cant wait for sunday. hopefully I can get my gopro working and post some vids

just be careful on tires...as they wear you do lose grip...I slide the back a lot when they get all the way worn like that...it's manageable, just know it will happen

[Patrk4546]

Originally Posted by z064life

just be careful on tires...as they wear you do lose grip...I slide the back a lot when they get all the way worn like that...it's manageable, just know it will happen

For sure, guess I will learn as I go to more track days. This is only my 2nd track event on a moto

[franikk]

Originally Posted by Patrk4546

For sure, guess I will learn as I go to more track days. This is only my 2nd track event on a moto

Three things that you will learn that will kill a tire.

1. Suspension
2. Tarmac condition
3. Throttle hand

[Net-Jester]

Just go slow, that's what I do. Tires last much longer.

[z064life]

Originally Posted by Net-Jester

Just go slow, that's what I do. Tires last much longer.

this is a

[lobsterhound]

The real question here is .... why is a man watching a play? Much less admitting to it?

[z064life]

Originally Posted by lobsterhound

The real question here is .... why is a man watching a play? Much less admitting to it?

He's in CA

[Patrk4546]

Originally Posted by z064life

He's in CA

hey u punks im from Texas, although now I live in LA among all these liberal crackheads with their prius's. My family went to see the play. It was actually funny. Honestly, if I was morman...i'd be pist

[Gearheaded]

Originally Posted by z064life

just be careful on tires...as they wear you do lose grip...I slide the back a lot when they get all the way worn like that...it's manageable, just know it will happen

That's because dunlops give great feedback

[DanQ]

Originally Posted by franikk

Three things that you will learn that will kill a tire.

1. Suspension
2. Tarmac condition
3. Throttle hand

I'd have to agree with these. I buy a set of tires each season, but I'm slow and watch the things listed above.

[z064life]

Originally Posted by DanQ

I'd have to agree with these. I buy a set of tires each season, but I'm slow and watch the things listed above.

Dan, I think we should define a season though. How many days do you get out of a set? I run ~20 days give or take a few/year. I can't imagine no matter how good my suspension is, unless I was MAYBE upper B group/slow I could I get 20 days out of a set

I happen to know you are NOT "slow"

If I keep my suspension right....and I watch my throttle (not good at ) I think I'll get 4 days or so out of mine. Barber was 2 days on a new set and I still have enough to get 1-2 more days for sure.

[DanQ]

Originally Posted by z064life

Dan, I think we should define a season though. How many days do you get out of a set? I run ~20 days give or take a few/year. I can't imagine no matter how good my suspension is, unless I was MAYBE upper B group/slow I could I get 20 days out of a set

I happen to know you are NOT "slow"

If I keep my suspension right....and I watch my throttle (not good at ) I think I'll get 4 days or so out of mine. Barber was 2 days on a new set and I still have enough to get 1-2 more days for sure.

I get about 10-12 days in per season. And I go about the whole season on a rear, much longer for a front. But I change the tires for comfort after so long (pretty much as soon as I touch the wear bars). I could probably get a few more days from the tires, but one it gets into my head they have to go. The whole crowd sees about the same wear, with the faster guys (Kyle, Scott and Kenny) going through tires a little faster, and Finsl going through tires much faster (back on Pirellis). The rest of us are all running Dunlop, and I try to catch adjustments as they become necessary.

[Gearheaded]

I could only dream of getting more than 4 days out of a rear tire

[z064life]

Originally Posted by DanQ

I get about 10-12 days in per season. And I go about the whole season on a rear, much longer for a front. But I change the tires for comfort after so long (pretty much as soon as I touch the wear bars). I could probably get a few more days from the tires, but one it gets into my head they have to go. The whole crowd sees about the same wear, with the faster guys (Kyle, Scott and Kenny) going through tires a little faster, and Finsl going through tires much faster (back on Pirellis). The rest of us are all running Dunlop, and I try to catch adjustments as they become necessary.

That's fair..I'm hoping to start getting 4 days out of mine and if I can get more that would be great but I'll be happy with 4. I will run them really low at a track but I have a hard time when the tread is gone starting at a new track with them

I'm looking forward to having Kenny drag my ass around the track sometime now that I'm in the same group

[franikk]

Originally Posted by z064life

Dan, I think we should define a season though. How many days do you get out of a set? I run ~20 days give or take a few/year. I can't imagine no matter how good my suspension is, unless I was MAYBE upper B group/slow I could I get 20 days out of a set

I happen to know you are NOT "slow"

If I keep my suspension right....and I watch my throttle (not good at ) I think I'll get 4 days or so out of mine. Barber was 2 days on a new set and I still have enough to get 1-2 more days for sure.

There is a boat load of variables of why you could be going through tires at a cyclic rate and it can get very frustrating trying to pin point the issue without pulling some hair out. You could be eating tires up just by being fast and hard on the throttle. But, is fast coming as a sacrifice of mismanagement of throttle, suspension, and tires or is it just the elements?


1. What tires are you running?
2. What pressures are you running?
3. What are your tire warmer temps and how are you cycling the warmers?
4. How long do you sit in pit-out/grid?
5. What compound are you running?
6. When coming out of a apex; how smooth are you and or do you hammer the throttle?
7. Are you running every session?
8. What does your chain slack look like?

[DanQ]

Originally Posted by franikk

There is a boat load of variables of why you could be going through tires at a cyclic rate and it can get very frustrating trying to pin point the issue without pulling some hair out. You could be eating tires up just by being fast and hard on the throttle. But, is fast coming as a sacrifice of mismanagement of throttle, suspension, and tires or is it just the elements?


1. What tires are you running?
2. What pressures are you running?
3. What are your tire warmer temps and how are you cycling the warmers?
4. How long do you sit in pit-out/grid?
5. What compound are you running?
6. When coming out of a apex; how smooth are you and or do you hammer the throttle?
7. Are you running every session?
8. What does your chain slack look like?

I like #8. Since seeing that tire at CMP, you know now why it's at the top of my list

[z064life]

Originally Posted by franikk

There is a boat load of variables of why you could be going through tires at a cyclic rate and it can get very frustrating trying to pin point the issue without pulling some hair out. You could be eating tires up just by being fast and hard on the throttle. But, is fast coming as a sacrifice of mismanagement of throttle, suspension, and tires or is it just the elements?


1. What tires are you running?
2. What pressures are you running?
3. What are your tire warmer temps and how are you cycling the warmers?
4. How long do you sit in pit-out/grid?
5. What compound are you running?
6. When coming out of a apex; how smooth are you and or do you hammer the throttle?
7. Are you running every session?
8. What does your chain slack look like?

1) 211 GPA (US) 190/55
2) cold 21B/31F (23/33 on warmers).
3) I don't cycle the warmers (155 degrees) Medium on chickhawk triple temps
4) I don't...usually ride right out. If I do it is no more than a minute or 2
5) Medium
6) I don't judge based on Apex. I start applying throttle as soon as I reach appropriate lean angle to make the corner. I do not hammer the throttle, but I can't say I'm the smoothest either. I apply it at a rate I believe I can handle.
7) I usually run every session, I typically run 15 min of it (not the full 20)
8) chain slack is good...if anything it is loose.


Ideas?

[franikk]

Originally Posted by z064life

1) 211 GPA (US) 190/55
2) cold 21B/31F (23/33 on warmers).
3) I don't cycle the warmers (155 degrees) Medium on chickhawk triple temps
4) I don't...usually ride right out. If I do it is no more than a minute or 2
5) Medium
6) I don't judge based on Apex. I start applying throttle as soon as I reach appropriate lean angle to make the corner. I do not hammer the throttle, but I can't say I'm the smoothest either. I apply it at a rate I believe I can handle.
7) I usually run every session, I typically run 15 min of it (not the full 20)
8) chain slack is good...if anything it is loose.


Ideas?

lol Sounds like you are just riding the piss out it!