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11-27-2012, 10:04 AM
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R1 - Z06
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Location: Temecula, CA.
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Carmax hides the truth about car's accident history.
Hi guys,
I'm very upset at carmax, I bought a hummer 3 from them 2 years ago, and yesterday I found out that the car had been involved in an accident back in 2007. That was with the first owner. I was trying to get a new car from my local vw dealership and they ran a carfax report.
What is the law in CA when selling a car? are not you supposed to inform the new owner about the car's history?
I'm thinking about going to carmax today and sell them back their "pos" car.
What do you guys think I should do?
Thanks
Last edited by R1Guy777; 11-27-2012 at 10:08 AM.
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11-27-2012, 10:10 AM
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some of you need to grow up !!
Join Date: May 2010
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Did they tell you that the vehicle was never involved in an accident ? Or did they just failed to mention it at the time of purchase ?
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11-27-2012, 10:11 AM
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Owner of the color changing R1
Join Date: May 2008
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unless you asked for a carfax report when you bought it....its not the dealershisp responsibility to tell you if it was ever wrecked of anything like that.
I hate carmax with a passion though. they are a huge ripoff. dont pay you near what other dealerships would give you on trade and do not allow any haggling on their prices.
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11-27-2012, 10:15 AM
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R1 - Z06
Join Date: Apr 2002
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They failed to informed me about the car's history, I trusted the company but I should have asked for a carfax report.
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11-27-2012, 10:21 AM
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Part of Da Pak
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Sorry to hear that man but as R1nStang said they aren't obligated to say anything about their cars nor is any other deal for that matter.
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11-27-2012, 10:22 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Jul 2012
Bikes: Vulcan 800 bobber SOLD - 06 R1 SOLD
Location: Atlanta, GA
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not everything from the car's history will appear on the carfax report, carfax reports what they know...they cant report what they dont know
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11-27-2012, 10:30 AM
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Owner of the color changing R1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R1Guy777
They failed to informed me about the car's history, I trusted the company but I should have asked for a carfax report.
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sadly...its not their responsibility to inform you about anything except for a salvage title...but i bought they would have bought it to begin with if it had one of those.
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my anus is just swollen.. Shut it!!!
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11-27-2012, 10:50 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Sep 2003
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11-27-2012, 04:03 PM
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is R1
Join Date: Jul 2008
Bikes: 07 R1
Location: tri state
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its on you
you should have had an independant inspection done prior to purchase
that 50, 100 or whatever it cost you would've made things much easier
i never understand when people buy a car worth more than a few grand without having it inspected.
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11-27-2012, 04:38 PM
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para bellum
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
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OP the responsibility to verify the vehicle's history, condition and value is solely on what you are willing to pay. If you don't ask, they don't need to disclose. It's called due diligence. Live and learn from it. Had a friend in college who tried to sell his honda accord. Found out it was salvaged and bascially 2 honda accords welded together at the b pillar.
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11-27-2012, 04:49 PM
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Venom X/O
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Carfax is worthless anyways because people don't report anything anymore. People should learn things to look for when looking at a car. Best investment you can make is car knowledge
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11-27-2012, 05:54 PM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Location: Naperville, IL
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no wonder they advertise "no haggle price"
lmao, you wouldn't want the customers to ask too many questions
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11-27-2012, 06:06 PM
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The Lead Farmer
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo
OP the responsibility to verify the vehicle's history, condition and value is solely on what you are willing to pay. If you don't ask, they don't need to disclose. It's called due diligence. Live and learn from it. Had a friend in college who tried to sell his honda accord. Found out it was salvaged and bascially 2 honda accords welded together at the b pillar. 
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Yep. They sold you the car you wanted. Buyer beware. Lemmings getting what lemmings deserve.
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11-27-2012, 07:05 PM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Sep 2007
Bikes: 2006 R1
Location: Fort Worth TX
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Originally Posted by Gearheaded
Carfax is worthless anyways because people don't report anything anymore. People should learn things to look for when looking at a car. Best investment you can make is car knowledge
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I do ask for a carfax report but i also i inspect the car down to underneath.
Making sure headlights and seams line up. Overspray. And that sort can clue you in to history of the car.
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11-27-2012, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Bikes: 2010 R1, 2009 Roadstar Silverado, 2008 R6 (Sold)
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So you had no issues for 2 years but now you want to sell it and you think they owe you something because you didn't check the history? What damage does carfax say it had...you sure the new dealer isn't just trying to screw you over deducting for stuff that doesn't matter. MANY cars get repairs for many different reasons
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11-27-2012, 07:26 PM
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I get food for your bike.
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Location: NOLA
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That sucks I think your sol. Caution is defiantly needed when buying used. My friend bought a car from Carmax a few years ago and a couple moths after purchase he found a small leak under the transition. They refused to fix it without a huge fight because they claimed it wasn't a leak that it was only seeping. After seeing my friend go through that ordeal I wont buy a used car without them picking it up on the lift for me.
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11-27-2012, 07:26 PM
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fast toys arent just 4 boys
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearheaded
Carfax is worthless anyways because people don't report anything anymore. People should learn things to look for when looking at a car. Best investment you can make is car knowledge
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11-28-2012, 05:30 AM
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Hacked up R1s rock!
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Location: Upstate, NY
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I always thought those H3s were a wreck when they rolled off the assembly line.
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11-28-2012, 06:14 AM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by z064life
So you had no issues for 2 years but now you want to sell it and you think they owe you something because you didn't check the history? What damage does carfax say it had...you sure the new dealer isn't just trying to screw you over deducting for stuff that doesn't matter. MANY cars get repairs for many different reasons
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Just because a car has been in a fender bender and needed a new bumper cover doesn't make it a shit car
Also, always spend the 100 bucks or so and take it to an independent "lemon buster" shop or something similar. Its amazing what they will find on a car when they are trained to look for it.
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11-28-2012, 07:07 AM
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ARMY's Finest!
Join Date: Aug 2012
Bikes: 2012 Yamaha R1, 2011 Yamaha R1, traded in 2009 Aprilia RSV 1000R, still own my 2006 CBR 600RR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearheaded
Carfax is worthless anyways because people don't report anything anymore. People should learn things to look for when looking at a car. Best investment you can make is car knowledge
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im pretty sure that whenever you get maintenance done on your care since for instance the dealer uses the vin number, all repairs/work done on the car is recorded and sent carfax.
even your jeffy lube people use your vin# to keep track of your car... and i wouldnt doubt it that they also report to carfax. there's a reason everything is driven thru your vehicle Vin# and it isnt to just identify YOU as the owner!!!
but to the OP, you shouldve checked it, i mean; it is posted on most of thier car listings. it suckes that you purchased a car that had been on a wreck bu you wouldnt be the 1st person to buy such car and unless the car underpoerformes due to the accident then there's nothing to complain about.
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