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Old 12-06-2012, 09:06 AM   #21
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Keep up the convo. It's saving me a BUNCH of research time lol
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:08 AM   #22
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You are wrong. An autotune read all the way to the engine's limit.
Yup - I stand corrected...my apologies. I just talked to Dynojet...it works all the way through the rev range. So, it is another option to just a custom tune...
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:15 AM   #23
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Indeed. With the Bazzaz you can set a target AFR for each RPM vs throttle position counterpoint, so it's very precise. Haven't seen the PCV one.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:16 AM   #24
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Are you going to race it or just street/track it? If you already have it, I would just stick with it....Flash, then throw that stuff on and be done....If your going to race it, then I would absolutely tune it....you need ever hp you can get!

So here's my next question (to help the op of course ) Do you just import a map to the PC that has your mods and let the autotune do it's thing, or do you get a tune, THEN put on the autotune for the fine adjustments?
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:21 AM   #25
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If the base map is close, it would take fewer auto tuning sessions to get it right, but it's the same end result.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:36 AM   #26
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Well since I street/track I'm gonna get it flashed, get it tuned, and keep everything else(PCV & Autotue) on it. I don't need to squeeze every last HP I can get out of it. Lol I just want a good running bike. From my understanding the flash alone is amazing so can't wait to see/feel for myself.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:51 AM   #27
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From my understanding the flash alone is amazing so can't wait to see/feel for myself.
I hear that...I picked up my R1 in Sept...I just put her away...So I'm going from slip ons only to midpipe/filter/flash/tune/brakes...for the next time I ride her which will prolly be on the track in April....I'm expecting a HUGE difference! I'm pretty excited lol...
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:39 AM   #28
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I hear that...I picked up my R1 in Sept...I just put her away...So I'm going from slip ons only to midpipe/filter/flash/tune/brakes...for the next time I ride her which will prolly be on the track in April....I'm expecting a HUGE difference! I'm pretty excited lol...
Yea I'm sure your gonna have a big diff! Luckily I live in west Texas so it's riding season all year long lol. Today it's supposed to hit 80 and its Dec!! Lol
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:18 AM   #29
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Yea I'm sure your gonna have a big diff! Luckily I live in west Texas so it's riding season all year long lol. Today it's supposed to hit 80 and its Dec!! Lol
uuummmmm.....jealous! I wish I was that lucky! I think the worst part is - the early storm we had and they dropped all the salt already...otherwise, I would still be riding!
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #30
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Yea our dea of cold is a cold front that hits once a year and it drops to 40 for a week! Burr lol I'm from Kansas where there's a foot of snow by this time o year so really enjoying 80s lol
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:51 PM   #31
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You are wrong. An autotune read all the way to the engine's limit.


And think about this....

do you ride in one area all year round? (think about that, elevation, humidity, etc) If so then a dyno tune will probably be great for you. I happen to take trips out of state and ride up mountains, etc so an autotune module is what you want if you travel on the bike or even if you just trailer the bike to another state to ride a particular track.

The best is to have both. Have a custom tune made for your area then have an autotune module for when you aren't in your own neck of the woods. DJ has a switch they sell that hooks up to the modules so you can turn the autotune on/off.
If picking one of the two, autotune hands down.

And as AKDMA said about Dan, the autotune is pretty hard to beat. There have been some folks on this forum that have taken their bike in for a dyno session with an autotune attached and the dyno operator cannot improve the map, at all. And I trust what Dan Kyle says about tuning above anyone there is. He's spent thousands of hours dynoing and making AFR changes for every sportbike there is.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #32
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You don't need it...what are you doing with it. I ride at many tracks in many different conditions so I like the autotune to use it the 1st couple sessions of the weekend. If you are a street rider, I'd save your money.
Wish I asked this question earlier. I ordered all of the above. Flash-Tune interface, PC-V and AutoTune. I just ride street but wanted great performance.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:19 PM   #33
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Where is this Dan Kyle located?
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:25 PM   #34
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:00 PM   #35
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Auto tune, from what was explained to me, reads the gas/o2 level in exhaust through the o2 sensor. At the 6k point, the o2 sensor no longer becomes useful and the ECU reads from the map that is on it. I may be wrong, but that is the way it was explained to me.

What you are referring to here is how the ECU uses an OEM O2 sensor to determine the fueling at low TPS and RPM. You can change this switch over point with the F-T interface, so that the ECU jumps into TPS vs RPM mapped fueling. Those of us using the OEM O2 sensor with a decreased load bias (say 50% in the F-T settings) still enjoy good fuel mileage for the street (something that may not be a concern with a track bike).

Another piece of info. The 09+ R1's have an atmospheric pressure sensor which compensates for altitude. A user took a map that was made at sea level and ran it in his F-T'ed bike with an AT unit, and the AFR's were right on the money. So the bike does a good job of compensating for altitude changes......
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:18 PM   #36
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Ummmm that last post just blew my mind.....lol guess you can say I'm not really a good at this tech stuff. I just know how to ride and enjoy myself lol
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Did you read the F-T FAQ? If not the link is in my signature.
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