Akrapovic "Evolution Line" or "Evolution Line Kit" or "Evolution Line Kit 2" ??? : Yamaha R1 Forum

ejlover · 12-09-2012, 04:31 PM

Hey,

I've been away for a while because of my Ph.D. dissertation

Hopefully in a month all will be over

Anyway I'll purchase a full TI Akrapovic exhaust system for my '12 R1. And it would take 3 weeks to arrive as a present for myself

But as I remember everybody here told me that the only difference between Evolution Line Kit and Evolution Line Kit 2 is the link pipes on the headers. But after making a research on the Akrapovich's web site I found that was incorrect.

Only difference , that was told on Akra's web site, between the Kit and Kit 2 is that the Kit 2's headers are in different shape to give some space for a race radiator. That's all. And schematics shows that Evolution Kit has same link pipes as with the Kit 2.

There is an older model called Evolution Line which doesn't have link pipes. So that's why everyone else is confused.

Here are the codes for titanium canned models:
Evolution Line (S-Y10RFT10TL-ZT): No link pipes, older model.
Evolution Line Kit (S-Y10RFT10-ZT/2): With link pipes.
Evolution Line Kit 2 (S-Y10RFT10-ZT/5): With link pipes and race radiator friendly headers.

So after clarifying that I want to ask you this:
If I'm not planning to change my radiator, Is there any advantage Evolution Kit2 has over Evolution Kit? Because it's $700 more expensive

Dyno charts are also same for all three models.

I'm waiting for your answers to purchase the system

Thank you guys

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 06:36 AM

So ?

Guate · 12-10-2012, 06:42 AM

Go with the Evo Kit 2, I'm glad I did because I ended up needing an add on radiator.

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Guate

Go with the Evo Kit 2, I'm glad I did because I ended up needing an add on radiator.

Thanks

But any advantages, differences it has other than it lets the installation of radiator?

Guate · 12-10-2012, 07:17 AM

I don't think there's any difference in power gains between the Evo kit and kit 2, but that's just my guess. Have you looked at the new Graves LINK system ?

SSPilot · 12-10-2012, 07:41 AM

I've got an Evo kit system I'm selling. It has Ti cans if you are interested.

gsxcorey · 12-10-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Guate

Have you looked at the new Graves LINK system ?

+1. It's a slick system and priced very well.

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Guate

I don't think there's any difference in power gains between the Evo kit and kit 2, but that's just my guess. Have you looked at the new Graves LINK system ?

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Originally Posted by gsxcorey

+1. It's a slick system and priced very well.

I'd love to, but I live in Turkey and none of the shops in here sells Graves. They don't have a distributor company in Turkey. And because of the price range it's impossible for me to get it out of Customs ;(

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Originally Posted by SSPilot

I've got an Evo kit system I'm selling. It has Ti cans if you are interested.

For the similar reasons and the price range of the item (even it's used) it is a problem in customs ;( But Thanks anyway =D

BTW, do you have a pic of the headers while it was installed on the bike? I wonder how the looks differs from the Kit2.. I'll appreciate if you can post some pics of the headers section on the bike. Thanks =D

SSPilot · 12-10-2012, 08:55 AM

There is no difference between the kit and kit 2 systems in the headers. Even the Evo system is similar in the headers. The difference is the cannisters.

BTW, I've shipped to Turkey before. It is not a real big deal.

Guate · 12-10-2012, 09:00 AM

This is a picture of the Evo Kit 2

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SSPilot

There is no difference between the kit and kit 2 systems in the headers. Even the Evo system is similar in the headers. The difference is the cannisters.

BTW, I've shipped to Turkey before. It is not a real big deal.

According to definitions on the Akrapovic's web site only the headers are different. They didn't mention anything about the canisters. What is the difference??

Difference to our standard Evolution system:
Headers with crossover
Headers with different Layout for bigger race radiator
Link pipe without fixing points for stock heat shield
Mufflers without db killers
Heat shields on the mufflers are made for racing and you can’t fit stock one

This difference list is same for both Kit and Kit2 except the underlined line. So the Kit2 has a different headers. But Kit and Kit2 has same canisters. But old evo has optional dB killers but these ones doesn't even have an optional dB killers.

That's what Akropovic says. Any difference did you noticed on the canisters?

Guate · 12-10-2012, 09:29 AM

The canisters are a bit shorter in the Evo 2 Kit.

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 09:30 AM

[QUOTE=Guate;5418029]This is a picture of the Evo Kit 2

Thanks man

Now all we need is a installed pic of Evolution KIT to see the difference more clearly

Anyone?

ejlover · 12-10-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Guate

The canisters are a bit shorter in the Evo 2 Kit.

Damn that's a good reason to go with KIT2. How much difference are we talking in here? Can it be noticed easily?

ejlover · 12-12-2012, 06:06 AM

No idea? Anyone?

Fezz · 12-12-2012, 06:39 AM

Hi ejlover,

I have the Evo 1, the headers don't have the crossover pipes between them, my Y Pipe has the brackets to mount the standard heat shields which I don't use, and as mentioned the cans are slightly longer than the Evo 2.

ejlover · 12-12-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fezz

Hi ejlover,

I have the Evo 1, the headers don't have the crossover pipes between them, my Y Pipe has the brackets to mount the standard heat shields which I don't use, and as mentioned the cans are slightly longer than the Evo 2.

Thanks Fezz Ur bıke looks nice

That's the Evolutıon Line model. I'll probably go with the Evolution Line Kit instead of Kit2. By your post I've seen the non Kit model too. Thank you so much.

Only missing pics are now belong to Evolution Line Kit model

bacchus40 · 12-12-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ejlover

Thanks

But any advantages, differences it has other than it lets the installation of radiator?

i would go with one that gives you room for an add on radiator.. its a nice option to have down the line... as the crossplane likes to get hot, the more power you want out of it down the road, cause we always want more... you'll wish you had the option... its a common issue with these bikes unfortunately..

Guate · 12-12-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bacchus40

i would go with one that gives you room for an add on radiator.. its a nice option to have down the line... as the crossplane likes to get hot, the more power you want out of it down the road, cause we always want more... you'll wish you had the option... its a common issue with these bikes unfortunately..

I couldn't agree more

ejlover · 12-12-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bacchus40

i would go with one that gives you room for an add on radiator.. its a nice option to have down the line... as the crossplane likes to get hot, the more power you want out of it down the road, cause we always want more... you'll wish you had the option... its a common issue with these bikes unfortunately..

You're absolutely right but for a cost of a race radiator I can sell the bike and buy a brand new one instead ;( So I'll never upgrade the radiator ;( But I wish they are cheaper because bike gets overheated between two traffic lights in summer ;(