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12-25-2012, 09:17 AM
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#101
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Originally Posted by rexmitchell
Felony evading that carries a maximum sentence of 20 years is a minor infraction
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This coming from the same people who justified the shooting. I'm looking at the facts, not the statute. Guy rode fast, didn't stop and gets shot. Utterly ridiculous. Pathetic.
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12-25-2012, 09:23 AM
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#102
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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It's department policy, clearly the attorney general down here doesn't have a problem with what they do
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12-25-2012, 09:31 AM
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That's right, trust your government. Wait, aren't you an obama hater? It's hypocrisy. Protect and serve indeed. You can't talk to a closed mind. Y'all have a merry christmas! I said what i think about this shocking abuseof authority. Unsubscribed.
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12-25-2012, 09:38 AM
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#104
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Originally Posted by AKDMA
That's right, trust your government. Wait, aren't you an obama hater? It's hypocrisy. Protect and serve indeed. You can't talk to a closed mind. Y'all have a merry christmas! I said what i think about this shocking abuseof authority. Unsubscribed.
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Yea, clearly I and the state I live in support Obama, give me a break 
I'm also not into running from the police so I don't feel like I have to worry about getting shot in a pursuit
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12-25-2012, 09:43 AM
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I eat my R1
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police at some point have to have authority/respect....rider should have stopped..could of endangered other motorist/pedestrians ...or even your child!....i guess the cop could of used the net gun!
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12-25-2012, 09:44 AM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Originally Posted by da rza
police at some point have to have authority/respect....rider should have stopped..could of endangered other motorist/pedestrians ...or even your child!....i guess the cop could of used the net gun! 
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Use a net then he breaks his neck, people would still complain about excessive force.
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12-25-2012, 10:12 AM
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Oh, and it isn't punishable by twenty years unless someone is killed by the person fleeing. The maximum sentence guidelines IF it was felony evading, which by statute it's very possible it was NOT, is 2-10 years. 2 years. So it's ok to shoot the guy. They had his identity, they could've just put a warrant and an APB out and he'd have been arrested without risking his life or the lives of innocent surrounding residents. If you're gonna quote statutes, at least read them first.
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12-25-2012, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKDMA
Oh, and it isn't punishable by twenty years unless someone is killed by the person fleeing. The maximum sentence guidelines IF it was felony evading, which by statute it's very possible it was NOT, is 2-10 years. 2 years. So it's ok to shoot the guy. They had his identity, they could've just put a warrant and an APB out and he'd have been arrested without risking his life or the lives of innocent surrounding residents. If you're gonna quote statutes, at least read them first.
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I did read them, what's to say he couldn't/wouldn't have killed someone? I thought you unsubscribed to this thread. Evading in a vehicle is automatically a felony also, only evading on foot is a lesser charge. Why do people keep defending criminals? If your family member got killed by an assclown like this I bet your attitude would be different  . People bitch and moan that the police don't do enough to stop criminals, then constantly complain they overstepped their boundaries. Which one is it? You want police help or not?
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Last edited by rexmitchell; 12-25-2012 at 10:19 AM.
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12-25-2012, 10:22 AM
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You're right on the vehicle. So the sentence i mentioned above us correct. Could've? He didn't, therefore it wasn't punishable by twenty years. It didn't say "possibility" or "chance of". I was just thinking of texas sentencing a guy to twenty years for evading and it sounded ridiculous. For good reason, it isn't true.
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Last edited by AKDMA; 12-25-2012 at 10:24 AM.
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12-25-2012, 10:26 AM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKDMA
You're right on the vehicle. So the sentence i mentioned above us correct. Could've? He didn't, therefore it wasn't punishable by twenty years. It didn't say "possibility" or "chance of".
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It brings me back to the point that the officer stopped the pursuit in compliance with his dept policies. He stopped the pursuit by shooting due to the fact that he felt that others lives were in danger, therefore stopping the individual from potentially killing someone. Back to the original point, dude would have never been shot if he had not run. The excuse that "it's only a minor traffic violation" is bullshit. If its a minor traffic violation they dumbass shouldn't have run then  . That logic goes both ways, however running brought about a reaction from the police instead of a ticket that would have been dismissed when he renewed his license
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12-25-2012, 10:27 AM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKDMA
You're right on the vehicle. So the sentence i mentioned above us correct. Could've? He didn't, therefore it wasn't punishable by twenty years. It didn't say "possibility" or "chance of". I was just thinking of texas sentencing a guy to twenty years for evading and it sounded ridiculous. For good reason, it isn't true.
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Agreed, 20 years would be excessive. 10 not so much if he endangered a bunch of people. However, if he killed someone, the manslaughter charges would far outweigh the felony evading ending in death anyway
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12-25-2012, 11:02 AM
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I got stanky on my hang down
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LMAO!!! Little guy was hell bent on not going to church.
Having said that Im glad no one got hurt!!!!
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12-25-2012, 11:42 AM
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My R1 eats me.
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thats a slightly disproportionate punishment. Hate to think what would happen if he'd have done something really bad
Last edited by hammy123; 12-25-2012 at 11:43 AM.
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12-25-2012, 01:33 PM
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Yamahaaa!!
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Execution by hangin' at noon---by his toes! That'll teach them hooligans!
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12-25-2012, 02:56 PM
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12-26-2012, 04:22 AM
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My R1 eats me.
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agreed... rules keep getting stretched over time... should have NEVER been a chase. period. the police are helping to CREATE the danger by high speed chase over a traffic violation. pure bullshit. when someone's family get's killed cause a cruiser or a felon runs it will be a different story. PLEASE someone tell me how giving chase over a suspended license is warranted ? we don't live in prohibition times people. how hard would it be to find that guy and his ugly ass bike again??? really? let's rip up the town at 100mph in a bike and 50 damn cruisers and shoot a hand full of bullets... great idea.
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12-26-2012, 05:18 AM
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I agree to some extent. Why give chase when you know who he is and where he lives? If you get the plate on dash cam, let him go
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12-26-2012, 05:29 AM
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I am the vanilla gorilla!
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Originally Posted by capecodr1
agreed... rules keep getting stretched over time... should have NEVER been a chase
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The same can be said about the idiot that ran in the first place, just because its a minor traffic violation doesn't mean it gives him the right to run. If he hasn't run, there wouldn't have been a chase either. With all the degenerates in society today, how does the trooper know the guy didn't just commit a murder/robbery, etc or had a bunch of drugs on him  If the rider wasn't doing anything wrong (except ridding without a license) just take the ticket and go home
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12-26-2012, 05:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rexmitchell
The same can be said about the idiot that ran in the first place, just because its a minor traffic violation doesn't mean it gives him the right to run. If he hasn't run, there wouldn't have been a chase either. With all the degenerates in society today, how does the trooper know the guy didn't just commit a murder/robbery, etc or had a bunch of drugs on him  If the rider wasn't doing anything wrong (except ridding without a license) just take the ticket and go home
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That's just putting too much hope in society.. A runners gonna run, doesn't mater what they did, they left the house willing to run. Why not be waiting for them when they get home?
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I could see myself watching Magic Mike EVERY weekend.
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Originally Posted by Fikays
speaking about "magic mike" I saw it a couple weeks ago
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12-26-2012, 05:56 AM
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#120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rexmitchell
The same can be said about the idiot that ran in the first place, just because its a minor traffic violation doesn't mean it gives him the right to run. If he hasn't run, there wouldn't have been a chase either. With all the degenerates in society today, how does the trooper know the guy didn't just commit a murder/robbery, etc or had a bunch of drugs on him  If the rider wasn't doing anything wrong (except ridding without a license) just take the ticket and go home
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He's a criminal.. it's not the same thing at all. He's an idiot. We hope our law enforcement has the ability to put their ego aside and do the responsible thing. Not act like Chuck Norris playing cops and robbers because the guy was speeding without a license and have a high speed shootout. It's just stupid. Your mentality of "he could've" is the one that allows civil rights and basic freedoms to be infringed upon. We have those rights for a reason. Try holding the "peace" officers to some accountability. As has been said, they easily could have arrested him later without firing a single shot or endangering a single person. Cops lose control of their vehicles all the time and fly into houses, other cars, etc. Not to mention the shooting itself.
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