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Old 01-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #1161
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:35 PM   #1162
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Evidence is against what the politicians are trying to say is fact. Its sad that they continue to promote these control bills when the facts show its not going to do shit.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:41 PM   #1163
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Evidence is against what the politicians are trying to say is fact. Its sad that they continue to promote these control bills when the facts show its not going to do shit.
What in the world makes you think they care anything about facts or saving lives. It's all about feelings and control.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:43 PM   #1164
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On a little bit different subject, caught a familiar name in one of the news links while reading some of these articles. Turns out my once neighbor and teammate of my older brother got the HAMMER about a month ago.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1....leaders.story

Did these guys really think they could just keep taking people's money and squandering it lavishly? Everybody knows you have to be an elected official to get away with that.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:43 PM   #1165
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Hahahaha..... Ban all hammers and high capacity tool belts.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:52 PM   #1166
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On a little bit different subject, caught a familiar name in one of the news links while reading some of these articles. Turns out my once neighbor and teammate of my older brother got the HAMMER about a month ago.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1....leaders.story

Did these guys really think they could just keep taking people's money and squandering it lavishly? Everybody knows you have to be an elected official to get away with that.
That's the we won't get caught attitude that drives that particular brand of stupidity
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:04 PM   #1167
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:15 PM   #1168
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:18 PM   #1169
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What in the world makes you think they care anything about facts or saving lives. It's all about feelings and control.

Didn't say all that now.. We know they don't have any logic.. Just stating that its sad the way they act.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:46 PM   #1170
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Read this today.


This might help explain some of it......( why people are so naive)

In 1994 Congress signed into law H.R. 1804, Goals 2000 Act, H.R. 2884, the School-to-Work Opportunities Act and H.R. 6, Elementary and Secondary Education Acts.
H.R. 6 states:

(1)(A) The Secretary [of Education] is authorized to carry out a program to enhance the third and sixth National Education Goals [of Goals 2000] by educating students about the history and principles of the United States, including the Bill of Rights, and to foster civic competence and responsibility.

Specifically, H.R. 6 stated that the federal control would be administered through a non-governmental organization (NGO) called the Center for Civic Education, “( B ) Such programs shall be known as ‘We the People: The Citizen and the Constitution’… [and shall be] administered by the Center for Civic Education…”

Funding for the Center for Civic Education to continue its control of the federal curriculum was in President Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” education bill in 2002. What does We the People: The Citizen and the Constitution say? Page 207 of the book states:

As fundamental and lasting as its guarantees have been, the Bill of Rights is a document of the eighteenth century, reflecting the issues and concerns of the age in which it was written.

When written in this way, a student who has little, if any, knowledge of the importance of the Bill of Rights will assume it is no longer relevant to today’s society. The twist and distortion is obvious. We the People does not mention national sovereignty once in the book. It does, however, extensively promote the concept of the global village and world citizenship in Lesson 37 for high school students.

Lesson 40 on page 214 even encourages the student to challenge the foundational principles of the US Constitution that have made the United States the greatest nation in the world,

The Founders, themselves, were vigorous critics of the wisdom they inherited and the principles in which they believed. They were articulate, opinionated individuals who loved to examine ideas, to analyze, argue, and debate them. They expected no less of future generations. They would expect no less of you.

We the People provides only one side of the information needed to challenge the foundational principles of the United States. It leads the student to believe the US Constitution and unalienable rights are disposable relics to be replaced by positive rights. Therefore, the only rights Americans should have are those defined by the federal government. How can a student possibly analyze and debate the foundational principles when they receive no information on why these principles might be critically important?

It’s no surprise that the National Standards for Civics and Government written by the Center for Civic Education are so biased that they can be described as little more than propaganda. The material references environmentalism 17 times, multiculturalism 42 times, First Amendment (especially separation of church and state) 81 times, and references the Second Amendment 0 times.

The Second Amendment is one of the Bill of Rights and a discussion of the reasons it was included should be in any textbook discussing the Bill of Rights. This glaring omission distorts any historical discussion of the founding documents of the United States and predisposes the student to anti-gun propaganda.

Why is the Second Amendment not included? Political science professor Allen Quist states: “The purpose of the Federal Curriculum is to indoctrinate, not to inform.”
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Great 2a read...

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She tells it like it is. Notice somebody in this clip?

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Old 01-04-2013, 02:56 AM   #1174
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Forbes has been publishing a lot of good articles defending gun rights.. Another good find man....
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Exactly how I feel, except I dislike the NRA for their past transgressions.

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I know alot of what was said, I've been thinking for a long time.
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I mention my DT theory a while back as well, they will hit everybody w it. Once labeled family and friends will turn almost immediately. But Someone has to stand up for what is right. Anybody w any type Of firearms will be made out to look crazy and foolish and a Bad guy outlaw.
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I mention my DT theory a while back as well, they will hit everybody w it. Once labeled family and friends will turn almost immediately. But Someone has to stand up for what is right. Anybody w any type Of firearms will be made out to look crazy and foolish and a Bad guy outlaw.
MAybe in your state. My state will not allow it.
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