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Old 09-10-2002, 08:53 AM   #1
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I don't know. It will make a difference as to the countermeasures I take with the new bike. Most bikes are stolen by putting them into a pickup truck, aren't they?
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Mine was carried off and loaded into something!
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Old 09-10-2002, 09:09 AM   #3
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i was told the R1 is by far the easiest bike to steal and believe it or not a bike can fit into an Astrovan or soccer mom caravans very comfortably!
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Old 09-10-2002, 12:48 PM   #4
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Yes they are picked up not riden off. Hell think about it at alittle over 400 lbs. it don't take much.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:25 PM   #5
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screw driver

All you need to steal almost any bike is a screwdriver and a hammer. You take the flat screwdriver and put it in the ignition then hit it with the hammer turn the ignition and start. If there is not wheel lock. Or have three guys and carry it away. first always put your wheel lock and second get theft insurance
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:42 PM   #6
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there is not a bike that is easier or harder to steal, well maybe because the r1 is so damn light it makes it easier...hahaha
most bikes are loaded not ridden... we were in del taco its like a taco bell...
we wnet in to eat came out and his bike was gone no longer then 5 minutes..... they must have been watching us or somehitng
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:50 PM   #7
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That screwdriver/hammer in ignition thing hasn't worked since the 80's... (or so I thought) they can defeat the steering lock that way, though.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:52 PM   #8
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I had to steal my own bike to get it home from Mid Ohio....I lost my keys and I didn't have the metal tag for the dealer to cut a new one off of the code. We tried the screwdriver but we couldn't turn the screw driver hard enough to disngage the lock and I didn't want to screw everything up. We didn't have a dent puller to rip the ignition out, so we went down to the race trailers to get an idea from some of the mechanics. If you've ever seen the tool that looks like a punch with a philips head on the end that you use to get stripped screws undone...you put it in and hit it with a hammer and it spins it counter clockwise? Well, Scott Madison (thanks scott) let us borrow one that was slightly modified with a torch on the phillips part. It had been disassembled and put back together so when you hit it with a hammer it spun clockwise, and the phillips head on the end had been filed and maybe hammered or grinded very flat and was about 1 1/2 inches long and about the thickness of a key. He inserted the whole thing in and hit it with a hammer and it spun past the lock...then he took it out and it was in the on position with the headlight on...I just had to hit the start button. When I got home I just used a screwdriver to turn it off. He said it won't work if you just try to force a screwdriver becasue it turns too slow and bends stuff. I don't know if he is right but it worked......Let me tell you though, it was a bitch to get those screws from underneath to replace it!!
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:55 PM   #9
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Looks like an engine kill is a good idea then.

Damn, just need to get rid of the main key ignition altogether.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:57 PM   #10
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I had to steal my own bike to get it home from Mid Ohio....I lost my keys and I didn't have the metal tag for the dealer to cut a new one off of the code. We tried the screwdriver but we couldn't turn the screw driver hard enough to disngage the lock and I didn't want to screw everything up. We didn't have a dent puller to rip the ignition out, so we went down to the race trailers to get an idea from some of the mechanics. If you've ever seen the tool that looks like a punch with a philips head on the end that you use to get stripped screws undone...you put it in and hit it with a hammer and it spins it counter clockwise? Well, Scott Madison (thanks scott) let us borrow one that was slightly modified with a torch on the phillips part. It had been disassembled and put back together so when you hit it with a hammer it spun clockwise, and the phillips head on the end had been filed and maybe hammered or grinded very flat and was about 1 1/2 inches long and about the thickness of a key. He inserted the whole thing in and hit it with a hammer and it spun past the lock...then he took it out and it was in the on position with the headlight on...I just had to hit the start button. When I got home I just used a screwdriver to turn it off. He said it won't work if you just try to force a screwdriver becasue it turns too slow and bends stuff. I don't know if he is right but it worked......Let me tell you though, it was a bitch to get those screws from underneath to replace it!!
So then how the fark are theives breaking that shit like it's nobody's business? THAT is what pisses me off.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:58 PM   #11
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Hell, bikes now a days are so light that 3 guys can just pick it up and take it so worrying about hotwiring it is almost senseless
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:00 PM   #12
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steering lock

Steering lock is a joke. Walk up to your bike and slam your handlebars really hard and the steering lock will break. Its only a aluminium tab on the steering colum. My CBR f3 was stollen just like that.
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:03 PM   #13
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round key

THey sell a replacement egnition that is a round key like the krypto locks but why bother if someone wants your bike they will carry it off. So get theft insurance
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:04 PM   #14
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I just use my bike for fun because i dont leave it anywhere where i cant watch it thats what it has come to because of all the thiefs. I only drive it to work sometimes because i can see it from my desk and our parking lot has video cameras. I never take it to the store or something like that.
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:05 PM   #15
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:12 PM   #16
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to answer your question man.. i work with a lot electronics time to time. I used to have a 96 ZX7RR that i was having problems. I thought the problem was in the ignition so i was working on that. Well, after looking at the diagrams, i realized that just to hot wire the bike, all i have to do is twist all the wires going into the ignition togther. That there would power the bike up normally as if the key had been turned. Now, not all bikes are the same so im not sure if its the same, but its very similiar. If anything, all thats different is a matter of a ground wire or something like that.
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:25 PM   #17
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3 guys hell!

I got a flat rear tire on a back road one time. I had my buddies ride on up to the next town (8 miles) while I started walking it. This dude (God bless ya!) in this little old Toyota pulls up and asks if I need any help, so I tell him what happened. He asks if I want to throw my bike in the back of his truck (and this is my 9 no less) so I say sure (walking your bike sucks ass). So we move some of his stuff outta the way, pick up the front end, put it in the truck, then picked up the back end and rolled it into his bed. Easy as that. Now I'm 6'1" 215lbs, but this guy was like 5'5" 130lbs.

Truth is, your bike is always susceptible to theft, so plan accordingly even if it means extreme measures. Hell yea!!
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:31 PM   #18
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Mine was ridden off. I was laying in bed and I heard them take off. I just figured it was somone else on a bike until the next morning when it wasn't there.
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most bike have a three wire ignition and if you put them all together they will power it up....

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Old 09-10-2002, 02:39 PM   #20
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Re: round key

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THey sell a replacement egnition that is a round key like the krypto locks but why bother if someone wants your bike they will carry it off. So get theft insurance
Where do you get that? Can they drill it out as easily as a standard key lock? Do you have a link to a website or anything?
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