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11-18-2006, 08:58 AM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes: 99 r1
Location: birmingham, uk
Posts: 17
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4xv and 5jj fames
hi all, ive been reading quite alot on the R1, ive read that there is not a lot of difference between the 5jj and the 4xv, can you tell me is the frame the same or is it different,if it is different do you know what they are and advice is greatfully received, nat.
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11-18-2006, 02:26 PM
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//Low-Life\\
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dalton Ga.
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Sorry man, most of us in the states won't know what 5jj and 4xv mean..
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11-18-2006, 05:43 PM
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Track bound.
Join Date: Mar 2004
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What's that, the part # prefix?
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11-18-2006, 09:36 PM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2002
Bikes: 98,1/2. R1
Location: melbourne.Aus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fiveoh
What's that, the part # prefix?
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yep, early carbed r1's were 4xv's the 5 series are most likely the 02 up.
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11-19-2006, 02:07 AM
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The Original One
Join Date: Jul 2005
Bikes: YZF-R1 '98
Location: Bracknell UK
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Nat,
UK Europe Models:
1998 4XV1
1999 4XV7
2000 5JJ1
2001 5JJ8
There were over 250 modifications to the 2000 model from the original.
I shall have to leave it to someone more knowledgeable as to whether the 5JJ frame is exactly the same as the 4XV.
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11-19-2006, 05:24 AM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes: 99 r1
Location: birmingham, uk
Posts: 17
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sorry guys, its a 1999 model and a 2000 model, mine is a 1999 4xv, i need another i can get a 1999 and 2000 model frame, the cost difference is about £300( $450 ) so if they are the same i will get the cheaper one, thanks
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11-19-2006, 05:35 AM
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Bald headed dork
Join Date: Jan 2002
Bikes: Schwinn Varsity
Location: Not sure...
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I'm almost positive that the subframe portion of the frame was changed from 98-99 to 00-01. Regarding the 'front' portion of the frame, the engine mounts may be the same.
Echoing William's comments, I'd definitely leave this one for the pros.
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11-19-2006, 09:43 AM
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THE MAN
Join Date: Feb 2002
Bikes: 00 R1 (THE FASTER BLUE ONE)
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I know the engine mounts are the same, but the subframe is for sure different.
You can make it work but the seat/tank/small tank plastics won't line up correctly.
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11-19-2006, 10:13 AM
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My R1 ate my GSXR and my VMAX!
Join Date: Sep 2003
Bikes: 99 r1, 05 R1, 02 fz1, 85 vmax, 96 yzf600r
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JAYSTENSEC4CYL
I know the engine mounts are the same, but the subframe is for sure different.
You can make it work but the seat/tank/small tank plastics won't line up correctly.
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Verily, Verily, I say unto you: this man speaketh the truth. GOD will surely grant you 40 virgins in heaven. May the lord bless your soul.
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11-19-2006, 10:36 AM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes: 99 r1
Location: birmingham, uk
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thanx to all your input, i guess i will have to pay the extra and buy the 99 frame,
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11-19-2006, 10:47 AM
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THE MAN
Join Date: Feb 2002
Bikes: 00 R1 (THE FASTER BLUE ONE)
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You know you could always buy the 00 frame and a better looking 00 tail to go with it 
And rather than 40 virgins I would much rather have a 180hp street bike, see an honest 200mph on the street, and ride my street bike in street trim to the track and run 9.70's or 9.80's.
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Last edited by JAYSTENSEC4CYL; 11-19-2006 at 10:49 AM.
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11-20-2006, 08:49 AM
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My R1 eats me.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes: 99 r1
Location: birmingham, uk
Posts: 17
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if i did that i would also need the drivers seat, pillion seat, undertail and light, anyting else?
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11-20-2006, 09:21 AM
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Ghostrider Squadron
Join Date: Feb 2002
Bikes: 00 r1 now 04
Location: texas
Posts: 9,248
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first 3 digits is model code. 04 stuff is 5VY. surely you can find used stuff for older model. be patient and surely one for right price will come up. i had buddyjust buy 98 or 99 for like $1500 running with all plastic. course it needed some TLC but still hard to pass up deal like that
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