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06-22-2007, 06:13 AM
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I eat my R1
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spark plug change
well is about the time to change spark plugs in my baby as i have 13200 miles. now my questions are:
how long does it take???
should i got from the top or the front???
which spark plugs to use or are these the one (NGK CR9EIA-9)???
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06-22-2007, 06:29 AM
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My R1 eats GIXERS
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i change mine every 8-9k. I used to do it to see how the motor was running but now i got a custom map so i know exactly how its running. I would go thru the front and drop the radiator(change that fluid, ya know its old!)and do the smog block offs. It will make it alot easier on the next change(no ais crap in the way from the top. Whole thing should take 2-3 hours if you have the right tools and skills.
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06-22-2007, 06:32 AM
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I eat my R1
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2-3 hours damn
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06-22-2007, 07:07 AM
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Anyone seen Cheech?
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I think it was Wheatman that posted a how to on spark plug / smog plate change. Very detailed step by step procedure, with pics to boot. Look it up, it'll definitely save you time and the headache.
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http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81452
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06-22-2007, 08:26 AM
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I didnt know that was illegal
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when i first did the Smog block off,,, i went in from the top,, and changed plugs while i was there... I just recently checked my vavles and changed my plugs again, since i was already in there.. and decided that it wwould be a whole lot easier to go in from the front... remove the front fairings and radiator,, and its all right there,, easy access.. It was a real pain doin it from the top..... just my opinion. Oh,, and i use cr9ek's. THats what they come with stock.
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06-22-2007, 08:31 AM
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Booya
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Dropped teh radiator and left the smogs in place. I have big ass hands too. Took an hour. Wasn't a lot of fun...but got them.
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06-22-2007, 09:17 AM
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My R1 eats yours!!
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Which Ever Way You Go In Use The Ngk Iridium Plugs
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06-22-2007, 09:26 AM
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if you have block off plates top is not bad.. but i think its easier in front. remove fairings and take radiator loose, you dont have to remove it, just loose. as far as plugs on dyno.. i have tested all kinds and there is no difference in power. i run single electrod cr9e instead of cr9ek, one that there is no difference in power, 2 its easier to make gap smaller for nitrous with single electrode plug, there are way cheaper. honestly i dont think there is need for iridium plug in bike. some people may swear by them, but unless its little better mileage(which i cant see) or maybe they might last longer(which i change mine often anyway) i wouldnt spend that kind of $$$ on them. it takes me about 30 minutes to do plug change. first time took me over hour and then some. but now i know what to do and not do and its not that bad. if u take it to shop.. it will cost you couple of hours.
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06-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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I eat my R1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1longR1
if you have block off plates top is not bad.. but i think its easier in front. remove fairings and take radiator loose, you dont have to remove it, just loose. as far as plugs on dyno.. i have tested all kinds and there is no difference in power. i run single electrod cr9e instead of cr9ek, one that there is no difference in power, 2 its easier to make gap smaller for nitrous with single electrode plug, there are way cheaper. honestly i dont think there is need for iridium plug in bike. some people may swear by them, but unless its little better mileage(which i cant see) or maybe they might last longer(which i change mine often anyway) i wouldnt spend that kind of $$$ on them. it takes me about 30 minutes to do plug change. first time took me over hour and then some. but now i know what to do and not do and its not that bad. if u take it to shop.. it will cost you couple of hours.
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so the CR9EK are iridium but not the original.
by any chance do you know what should the gap be.
thanks dude
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06-22-2007, 10:11 AM
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I didnt know that was illegal
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cr9ek's are what come in it stock from the factory, and what the manual recommends.. gap is .6 to .7 mm.
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06-22-2007, 10:14 AM
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I eat my R1
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btw i could order this plugs at any auto parts right.
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06-22-2007, 10:16 AM
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I eat my R1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lthompson
cr9ek's are what come in it stock from the factory, and what the manual recommends.. gap is .6 to .7 mm.
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from the NGK website it says .032 gap which i dont know in what mesuments
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06-22-2007, 10:16 AM
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Ghostrider Squadron
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EK are not iridium. the I in part number signifies iridium like creix9. that would be iridium. cant remember stock gap.. i think its like .032. i dont gap mine at that. i guess its cr9ek in 06, i know its stock plug in 04-05.
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06-22-2007, 10:19 AM
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I eat my R1
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yeah what you just said is what the NGK website says
they dont mention the 06, only 04-05
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06-22-2007, 10:29 AM
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Booya
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Also...if they were Iridium...you dont' gap them. You can very easily damage the iridium tip.
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Yeah it was head trauma alright....but it was my little head that was traumatized by your mouth. 
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06-22-2007, 10:49 AM
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My R1 is the Lord of the Road.
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i ordered a set of spark plugs as well. i'm planning on changing mine since i already have 9000 miles on my bike. i'm just waiting for a perfect timing.
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06-22-2007, 11:15 AM
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04 R1 parts for sale
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Stick with the stock CR9ek. The iridiums are a waist of cash.
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06-22-2007, 11:31 AM
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wtf is the internet?
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i changed my plugs from the top. i didn't know it was possible to change from the front. even so, i don't think i'd want to, seeing as the radiator has to be dropped. but from the top, you do need gumby fingers for cylinders 1 and 4, but it is possible.
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06-22-2007, 11:32 AM
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Booya
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raidwolf
i changed my plugs from the top. i didn't know it was possible to change from the front. even so, i don't think i'd want to, seeing as the radiator has to be dropped. but from the top, you do need gumby fingers for cylinders 1 and 4, but it is possible.
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By drop...you remove three small bolts and it sits down about four inches...still attached and such to the hoses. but provides enough room to get your hands in there.
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"Universe is 14 billion years old. Seems silly to celebrate one year. Be like having a fvcking parade every time I take a piss." -- ShitMyDadSays
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Originally Posted by Fikays
Yeah it was head trauma alright....but it was my little head that was traumatized by your mouth. 
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06-22-2007, 12:17 PM
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I eat my R1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaask8tr
Stick with the stock CR9ek. The iridiums are a waist of cash.
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yeah im going to pick mine up in about 30 min
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