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11-30-2008, 05:24 PM
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PUNCH YOUR EAR. DO IT!!!
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Reusable oil filter
Is there a such thing as a reusable oil filter? Havent seen anything yet...
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11-30-2008, 05:27 PM
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yep...Scott's has one
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11-30-2008, 05:33 PM
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11-30-2008, 07:24 PM
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I thought the reusable filters were more for dirt bikes than sport bikes
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11-30-2008, 07:40 PM
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I eat my R1
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we needed an oil filter debate. my vote is those are next to junk. be sure and get a billet bling one, they really don't filter much
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12-03-2008, 11:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveWFL
we needed an oil filter debate. my vote is those are next to junk. be sure and get a billet bling one, they really don't filter much 
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scotts filter is pretty good
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12-04-2008, 04:13 AM
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X_Infantry
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ya steve - scotts have smaller micron screen than stock.
I have one on both my bikes & they are way better, not bling - Heavy Duty..
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12-04-2008, 04:16 AM
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X_Infantry
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Oil Filters:
The Finest Stainless Steel Micronic Oil Filter You Can Buy
* Why Scotts is the best: Setting the Industry Standard with Technological advancements in product design
* 10 Years of Engineering, manufacturing and testing
* Technical information and assistance available directly from the manufacturer
* 3 Pleat welded seam (best sealing and strongest
* Passes ASTMF316 Test for 35 Microns
* Certified "Bubble Point" testing on media
* Passes 24 hour chemical resistance test
* Custom woven media
* Able to withstand 600 degrees F.
* Full Flow bypass with progressive valving. No need to disassemble for cleaning.
* Magnetic pre-filtering (all spin-on models)
* Will Manufacture Custom Filters for Specialty and Vintage applications.
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* Labeled "4-Stroke insurance" by MotoCross Action Magazine
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* 100% In-House design and Manufactured in the USA
Superior Filtration:
This should be the last oil filter you will ever buy! Made from laser cut, medical grade, 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth, this filter provides 200% more filter area in many cases. Most good paper filters will pass particles in the 90 to 95 micron range, and some tested, as much as 300 microns. Sand is about 125 microns and a white blood cell approximately 25 microns. Our stainless filter catches items down to 35 microns "absolute", which is about 3 times better than most good paper or brass filters. The pleat seam is welded, able to withstand up to 600 degrees in our filter, not glued, like paper filters.
Cleanable and reusable:
Simply remove the filter, rinse in clean solvent and replace it, you're done. The filter can be cleaned with solvent, kerosene, aerosol carburetor cleaner, or any other degreasing agent, even common dish soap. You can even blow air through the filter from the inside out to remove any small particles or cleaning agent from the screen if you so desire.
Consistent flow under all conditions:
Stainless steel will stand up to the stress of heat, high pressure and physical handling much better than paper or brass. This filter maintains consistent flow under all conditions including cold start ups and or under extreme heat. A one inch square of this micron filter material will flow 1.9 gallons of 90 weight oil per minute at only 1 psi pump pressure (70 degrees F). Our typical filter size is 30 sq. in. which equals the flow of 57 gallons per minute. Standard paper filters do not flow well when the oil is cold, often causing the bypass valve to open allowing unfiltered oil to enter your engine, uhg!
Unaffected by Water, Heat and Pressure:
This filter is capable of withstanding extremely high pressure and flow rates. It is also unaffected by Water, Heat and Pressure, unlike standard paper filter material which swells in the presence of water, closing off filter pores and reducing flow.
Early Detection:
By allowing you to inspect the debris that is in the filter you can monitor your engines condition, avoiding minor and or catastrophic failures.
What is a Micron?
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That's about .00003937 inches. Fine sand can be as small as 62 microns thick. Our filter will not allow any particle over 35 microns to pass through this filter, that's some pretty small stuff that's being caught.
So who uses this type of filtration?
This high tech filter technology is widely used in all types of auto racing including NASCAR, Indy type cars, Formula 1 and in the Aerospace industry where filtration is of the utmost importance.
Things to think about:
Next time you are fanning your clutch think about all that tiny debris that is created from the clutch and gears meshing together, spinning around in your motor's vital parts. If you really care about the life of your motor and consider the cost of loss of time associated with a current day 4-stroke motor, then you need one of these filters. It's even transferrable in some cases to your next bike. I used the same filter in my last three bikes, and it's still like brand new, there's simply nothing to wear out.
Environmental benefits
In addition to all the other benefits, our filter helps keep the land fills free of old used filters.
This filter is proudly made in the USA.
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12-04-2008, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveWFL
we needed an oil filter debate. my vote is those are next to junk. be sure and get a billet bling one, they really don't filter much 
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After careful reading of all the posts i have to agree with you!
Maybe calling them junk is a little harsh after reading the specs on the Scotts (if they are correct) but on the other hand if the Scotts are indeed that good a valid question would be there has to be a reason why moto gp bikes do not use them!?
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12-04-2008, 10:28 AM
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1/4 mile in X.XX seconds?
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Originally Posted by Sal_R1
After careful reading of all the posts i have to agree with you!
Maybe calling them junk is a little harsh after reading the specs on the Scotts (if they are correct) but on the other hand if the Scotts are indeed that good a valid question would be there has to be a reason why moto gp bikes do not use them!?
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well i have to disagree....
i dont know about moto gp and why they dont use them ...maybe for weight and they got the money to tear down a motor and slap a new free oil filter on it anyway....
but the drag racers do because they filter very very good....we rebuilt a brand new motor and th filter causght every lil thing there was absolutely nothin in the oil pan which is unheard of for a brand new motor rebuild.....
and also they help to increase oil pressure...
i completely stand behind these oil filters.....
from my bike which is pretty close to stock and also on my bosses 500 hp turbo hayabusa these things work really good and are completely worth it by the time you go through a couple oil filters...
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12-04-2008, 10:33 AM
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1/4 mile in X.XX seconds?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal_R1
After careful reading of all the posts i have to agree with you!
Maybe calling them junk is a little harsh after reading the specs on the Scotts (if they are correct) but on the other hand if the Scotts are indeed that good a valid question would be there has to be a reason why moto gp bikes do not use them!?
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well i have to disagree....
i dont know about moto gp and why they dont use them ...maybe for weight and they got the money to tear down a motor and slap a new free oil filter on it anyway....just like the same reason they dont use frame sliders caus they dont care about there plastics cause they got money to burn ....i dont know why everyone compares what moto gp does to what they shoulod do to there bike... they have infinite money and sponsors so they dont have to do the same things we do...
but the drag racers do because they filter very very good....we rebuilt a brand new motor and th filter causght every lil thing there was absolutely nothin in the oil pan which is unheard of for a brand new motor rebuild.....
and also they help to increase oil pressure...
i completely stand behind these oil filters.....
from my bike which is pretty close to stock and also on my bosses 500 hp turbo hayabusa these things work really good and are completely worth it by the time you go through a couple oil filters...
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12-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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Hey prophet...what do you use to clean your filter (degreaser, solvent or dish soap product)?
I ask because one came with my track bike and its time to change the oil.
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12-04-2008, 10:37 AM
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1/4 mile in X.XX seconds?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leader
Hey prophet...what do you use to clean your filter (degreaser, solvent or dish soap product)?
I ask because one came with my track bike and its time to change the oil.
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just take it off the biike and take the screen and everything out u can clean it with brake cleaner or anything like that ....
let it dry and fill it back up its easy///
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12-04-2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ProphetR1
just take it off the biike and take the screen and everything out u can clean it with brake cleaner or anything like that ....
let it dry and fill it back up its easy///
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sweet, thanks...first go around with the reusable..
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12-04-2008, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProphetR1
well i have to disagree....
i dont know about moto gp and why they dont use them ...maybe for weight and they got the money to tear down a motor and slap a new free oil filter on it anyway....
but the drag racers do because they filter very very good....we rebuilt a brand new motor and th filter causght every lil thing there was absolutely nothin in the oil pan which is unheard of for a brand new motor rebuild.....
and also they help to increase oil pressure...
i completely stand behind these oil filters.....
from my bike which is pretty close to stock and also on my bosses 500 hp turbo hayabusa these things work really good and are completely worth it by the time you go through a couple oil filters...
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I mentioned moto GP as they have no reservations about using the best especially in this department and as they do not, red flags certainly go up in the absence of a valid reason!
Increasing oil pressure is moot point as there are other ways of doing it. Its dependent on the bypass valve inside the filter as one example and its not always a good thing!
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12-05-2008, 06:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal_R1
I mentioned moto GP as they have no reservations about using the best especially in this department and as they do not, red flags certainly go up in the absence of a valid reason!
Increasing oil pressure is moot point as there are other ways of doing it. Its dependent on the bypass valve inside the filter as one example and its not always a good thing!
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why would a moto gp team use a reusable filter? they change the oil after each race anyway ,so it takes more time cleaning the filter then putting a new one each time. and better filtering is not better for a gp bike ,trying to squize every 0.1 hp out of the engine .
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12-06-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sss r1
why would a moto gp team use a reusable filter? they change the oil after each race anyway ,so it takes more time cleaning the filter then putting a new one each time. and better filtering is not better for a gp bike ,trying to squize every 0.1 hp out of the engine .
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The reference is to the filters specs as posted above such and not its reusable advantages!
Technical information and assistance available directly from the manufacturer
* 3 Pleat welded seam (best sealing and strongest
* Passes ASTMF316 Test for 35 Microns
* Certified "Bubble Point" testing on media
* Passes 24 hour chemical resistance test
* Custom woven media
* Able to withstand 600 degrees F.
* Full Flow bypass with progressive valving. No need to disassemble for cleaning.
* Magnetic pre-filtering (all spin-on models)
I think efficient filtering is better for any bike especially the Moto GP variety!
Its already been established that the Scotts has a high flow rate and that combined with a high flow rate oil pump as one way would significantly raise the oil PSI making squeezing every 0.1hp out of an engine a moot point in this regard!
Unless you know the type of oil filters and its specs a Moto GP team uses and why!
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12-06-2008, 03:15 PM
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I eat my R1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveWFL
we needed an oil filter debate. my vote is those are next to junk. be sure and get a billet bling one, they really don't filter much 
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my unprofessional opinion/comment stands!
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12-06-2008, 03:31 PM
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I ran one on my 02 R1 and bought a new one for my 06 R1.
Sold my 02 with 40k miles too. If it's junk.....I doubt anyone is going to keep their bike long enough to seriously find out. I don't think I'll rack 40k miles on my 06 R1 before selling it let alone 50, 60 or 70k miles. It's tough selling a Sportbike with high mileage anyway.
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12-06-2008, 03:34 PM
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I eat my R1
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Originally Posted by 02R1guy
I ran one on my 02 R1 and bought a new one for my 06 R1.
Sold my 02 with 40k miles too. If it's junk.....I doubt anyone is going to keep their bike long enough to seriously find out. I don't think I'll rack 40k miles on my 06 R1 before selling it let alone 50, 60 or 70k miles. It's tough selling a Sportbike with high mileage anyway.
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ok so there's a few exceptions to every rule too (and please don't take my posts too seriously!)
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