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06-30-2012, 06:25 PM
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ITS MY R1
Join Date: Jan 2009
Bikes: 2009 R1
Location: San Diego
Posts: 24
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Slip on question
Hi,
I have just installed akrapovic slip on
On my 09 R1.
I was told I have to install a dyno jet too
Cause of it.
Is it true?
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06-30-2012, 07:38 PM
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I RACE U LOSE
Join Date: Oct 2011
Bikes: 2000 R1 SOLD & 2006 R1 50th Anniversary & 2012 R1 50th G.P. Anniversary#145
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Yes you should,but I would get a Bazzaz Zfi unit as fuelmap will probably be closer to what you need. Bazzaz unit has 2 fuelmaps already installed,with the connection plug for map selection switch in the harness near the rear of bike it is in slipon map and with plug removed its on the stock exhaust map. The cost of a fuel controller will go a long way for you and your'e bikes enjoyment factor as well keeping it from running too lean and possibly damaging it. Get the Flashtune ecu interface as well to unlock hidden power already in your bike for $350,or they can reflash your ecu for $150
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06-30-2012, 07:47 PM
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I like to Ride
Join Date: Sep 2002
Bikes: '09 R1 White/Black, '12 WR450 Supermoto
Location: Allen,Texas
Posts: 567
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NO. You don't need power commander for a slip on.
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07-01-2012, 11:52 PM
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#4
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2005 Yamaha R1
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes: 2005 R1
Location: California
Posts: 1,431
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Anytime you do something which increases air flow into the motor or reduces back pressure (i.e. slip-ons, full exhaust, etc.) then yes, you should install a power commander.
The power commander over rides the OEM ECU's fuel curve, avoiding possible lean conditions (i.e. more air going into the motor = lean, if you don't bump up the OEM fuel map). The power commander allows you to do this.
You don't *have to* run a Power Commander, but you risk running the motor on the overly lean side, which - over a prolonged period of time - could result in engine damage (burned valved, hot running, piston melting, etc.). With that said, it's difficult to say how lean a condition you'd end up with from just slip-ons. Also, the 2009 might have an O2 sensor that provides a feed back loop to the ECU (I don't know).
Most people do install a Power Commander when doing stuff like changing the stock exhaust to something that flows more freely and/or when adding a K&N type filter, etc. Having a tuned fuel map avoids running lean and matches the fuel curve to the flow characteristic of the exhaust you have. This helps you extract the most power from your bike and, as mentioned, helps to avoid the motor running on the lean side.
It's your bike; it's your call - as far as whether you install a Power Commander. I definitely would do it for a full exhaust (i.e. no cat, etc.). It's probably also not a bad idea for slip-ons; at least you have it and can dump the proper map into the Power Commander.
Ray
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07-02-2012, 12:04 AM
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2010
Bikes: '11 FLHX, 09 YFZ450R, 07 YZ450F, 06 R1 50th
Location: in the dirt
Posts: 12,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-MannIBP
NO. You don't need power commander for a slip on.
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 beneficial but not neccessary
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07-04-2012, 09:17 AM
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ITS MY R1
Join Date: Jan 2009
Bikes: 2009 R1
Location: San Diego
Posts: 24
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Thank you guys for your help. better safe then sorry. I will look into a power commander
thx
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