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10-30-2012, 03:14 PM
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520 Vs 530 Which Chain
I am trying to lose weight off the bike and bling it up at the same time; I have been looking at some gold 520 chains and sprockets, I feel this is the way to go? I believe the 520 won’t last as long but is there a benefit with the loss of weight or is it not noticeable? Which have you fitted and could you feel the difference?
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10-30-2012, 03:18 PM
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You'll definitely go through chains and sprockets much faster if you do a 520 conv. Tsubaki Alpha Gold is my recommendations with chain and a Stealth or Renthals sprockets. Up to you though but everyones opinion on which brand is going to be unique to their own standards.
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10-30-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AHB537
You'll definitely go through chains and sprockets much faster if you do a 520 conv. Tsubaki Alpha Gold is my recommendations with chain and a Stealth or Renthals sprockets. Up to you though but everyones opinion on which brand is going to be unique to their own standards.
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The life of the chain sprockets on a 520 conversion have been debunked many times over. The only truth is that if you go with a 520 Al sprocket it will wear fairly fast. Go with a lightweight steel and you won't have any issues.
Will you notice 520......Do you use every bit of the bike as it sits now? If you don't, you won't notice it.
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10-30-2012, 11:03 PM
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MummyMan
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Stealth or renthal for 520 is like water and oil. Two very very different sprockets. One is alum and one is steel.
As z06 said a superlight steel rear sprocket in 520 with a high end chain can last as long as stock. Stealth rear sprocket, Driven evo spec superlight steel, Vortex superlight steel, etc would fall into this category. You go with a 520 chain kit with a good chain and these sprockets and 20-40k is what you should see for mileage if you take care of it.
Many 1000cc owners run alum rear sprockets and get 7-20k miles out of it depending on how they take care of it. I would say the average is 10-12k miles though.
If you're a street guy I would recommend the superlight steel 520 chain kits.
More importantly then anything though is taking care of it through proper chain slack and cleaning/lubing the chain. I've seen super strong 530 kits not last 1k miles with bad maintenance and i've seen some weak 520 alum kits run over 20k miles. Maintenance is the #1 factor in the life of your chain kit no matter what.
BTW if you want super long lasting with a steel rear sprocket then snag the ek zzz chain. Longest lasting street 520 chain on the market right now, but it's a bit more money. For a bit less money and about 5% less life you can get the ek mvxz or rk gxw chain.
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10-31-2012, 12:07 AM
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It's just like a video game.
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Thanks Guys for quality replies. With British weather and work mileage won’t be an issue. My chain now is mint and is cleaned and lubricated every 2nd ride. I will Google some of your suggestions and pick some out.
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10-31-2012, 05:45 AM
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520 is the only way to go.. There is absolutely no need these days to have any bigger. take care of it, clean it, oil it.. it will last every bit as long.
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10-31-2012, 07:00 AM
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10-31-2012, 07:11 AM
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erv3 with steel vortex here
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10-31-2012, 08:07 AM
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erv3 is the weakest high end chain out there and the most expensive? To run one of the weakest and most expensive 520 chains with a steel sprocket is kind of an oxy moron. It's only rated for a 750cc bike too. We had an issue with one on a guy with a 1000cc bike and did basically told him to pound sand as it's not recommended for a 1000cc bike. It's still a strong chain, but why not get something stronger, with a better wear rating, and less expensive if you're going to be running a steel sprocket anyway?
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10-31-2012, 08:43 AM
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Cool great link Cheers going to do that.
Anyone got a link for a hanger to hang my stock rear calliper under the swinging arm. I never use the back brake and the only ones I can find come with up graded calliper attached not just the bracket?
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10-31-2012, 10:24 AM
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Cool great link Cheers going to do that.
Anyone got a link for a hanger to hang my stock rear calliper under the swinging arm. I never use the back brake and the only ones I can find come with up graded calliper attached not just the bracket?
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can't do what you are asking..you have to have a caliper for the underslung
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10-31-2012, 10:30 AM
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can't do what you are asking..you have to have a caliper for the underslung 
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That’s why I could not find one. I have not used back brake from new so seem a waste to upgrade it. Cheers
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10-31-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gsxcorey
erv3 is the weakest high end chain out there and the most expensive? To run one of the weakest and most expensive 520 chains with a steel sprocket is kind of an oxy moron. It's only rated for a 750cc bike too. We had an issue with one on a guy with a 1000cc bike and did basically told him to pound sand as it's not recommended for a 1000cc bike. It's still a strong chain, but why not get something stronger, with a better wear rating, and less expensive if you're going to be running a steel sprocket anyway?
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ive never had an issue and i know plenty of others that run them as well.
and they arent the most expensive either
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10-31-2012, 10:41 AM
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They are more expensive then the ek mvxz and rk gxw both of which are stronger then it and have a greater wear life then it. Most that ran it in the past all ran it with alum 520 sprockets as that is pretty much all that was available up until a year ago in 520. With alum it's fine as the alum rear sprocket would be the weakest link in the chain kit. However, with the new steel sprockets it doesn't make much sense to pay more for a chain that is weaker then other options and won't last as long.
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10-31-2012, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ss55539
ive never had an issue and i know plenty of others that run them as well.
and they arent the most expensive either 
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Yep.
Same here.
We have Sold Thousands of these chains.
No complaints.
We use them on all our Street and Race bike for many many years.
Used by nearly All Factory Race Teams world wide. Then again, they replace them well before they get "Worn" out.
But, still makes the point. If the best of the best use them, probably a pretty good chain.
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10-31-2012, 01:16 PM
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But, still makes the point. If the best of the best use them, probably a pretty good chain.
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but im sure that the teams only use them no more than once and then it's thrown out... so it doesnt nescessarly mean its the best overall for all options but simply the best "race" part which one has to think that doesnt get reused.
it's like saying well, "MOTOGp uses bridgestone so they must be the best!!!" but by the time the race is over those things are burnt and will never ever see paventment until fully recycled, which its a far much difference than saying i had "a" tire and lasted me XX amount of yrs/miles which is the type of guesstimation people mostly be looking for in a item as im sure i wouldnt be able to afford a new chain and sprocket after every ride i did on my bike... hell nah! lol
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10-31-2012, 01:40 PM
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DID mandates they don't do more then one race with them. The last few years they are using the DID ERV4 as well
We talk to the chain manufacturers often when we order in pallets of chain. Our last 700lb shipment we got in. Our Fedex freight guy hates us lol.
Last edited by gsxcorey; 10-31-2012 at 01:48 PM.
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10-31-2012, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gsxcorey
DID mandates they don't do more then one race with them. The last few years they are using the DID ERV4 as well
We talk to the chain manufacturers often when we order in pallets of chain. Our last 700lb shipment we got in. Our Fedex freight guy hates us lol.
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LOL...
When did D.I.D. Start using Hotbodies Tape ?
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10-31-2012, 02:07 PM
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2. Where do you see hotbodies? LOL someone needs glasses
Last edited by gsxcorey; 10-31-2012 at 02:10 PM.
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10-31-2012, 02:11 PM
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We just messing with you. :-)
You going to cut off the wrapping, and show us what 700lbs of chains look like ?
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