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Old 12-24-2012, 08:50 AM   #1
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firefighters shot in NY

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/...tate-new-york/

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Two firefighters are dead and two others are injured after being shot while responding to a call, according to Webster, N.Y. police.
wanna bet this is yet another false flag shooting designed to gain support for cuomo the anti-gun agenda?
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:26 AM   #2
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Another reason a gun ban in NY doesn't work
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Why the hell would they do that? There is literally no reason to shoot first responders for a fire... WTF is up with people these days?
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With shit like this happening so often now, False flag is the most likely scenario
RIP to the first responders
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Why the hell would they do that? There is literally no reason to shoot first responders for a fire... WTF is up with people these days?
Guarding their meth lab, wanted the fire to destroy evidence, etc.


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Where'd you see that? I didn't see it in the article
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Somethings goin on around here and I gotta Get outta Dodge.
You considering leaving NY?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:18 AM   #9
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Id love to, I dont own any property here and my lease is up in the App. only thing keeping me here is Family. But If I can get my girl 100% behind me then I am looking into other options. Thinking PA somewhere in the Woods on some water.
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Where'd you see that? I didn't see it in the article
Speculation on why people would shoot first responders


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Old 12-24-2012, 11:34 AM   #11
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They say no shooter yet. Is it possible there was ammo stored in the burning house that got too hot? If you had thousands of rounds going off all off a sudden it could happen. I find the lack of info on a shooter suspect.
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you can ask questions until youre blue in the face and get nowhere.... take the FACTS not what the media tells you and not conjecture or supposition and you put them all together until you come to a conclusion that makes sense

someone shot firefighters who responded to a fire... it was a classic ambush style shooting.. ask anyone who has ever served in wartime to take a look at the tactics employed by the shooters

firefighters are generally thought of as heroes by most americans... why shoot HEROES? makes no sense right? keep reading...

this shooting happened on christmas eve.. the one holiday in america that has the strongest emotional attatchment by most americans... christmas is generally the HAPPIEST time of year.. AND it happened in new york state.. the state w/ the strictest gun laws on the books and also the state in which the governor is pushing for forced buybacks and door to door confiscation of firearms... oh yeah... and cuomo has also put forth legislation to SUSPEND the 2nd amendment... could you choose a better target or location or situation that would generate a bigger public outcry and swing public opinion in favor of the anti gun agenda? not if you tried

the current administration has said time and time again they will not let a good crisis go to waste because it allows them to do things they otherwise would not have been able to... take it a step further w/ saul alinski in his book rules for radicals saying that if a convenient crisis doesnt happen then MANUFACTURE one.... dead children... now dead firefighters.....

i know i sound fvckin crazy... tinfoil hat shit.... but either ive gone crazy or the whole fvcking world has.... and im REALLY hoping its me whos lost his mind because the alternative..... i WANT someone to tell me im nuts... i WANT someone to give me an explanation that makes sense... the feds came for me once already... i know what kinda shit they do... its happened to me and ive seen the judges and politicians and business owners who have ended up behind the fence when they opposed the govt
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Oh btw, This is how Ny treats Legal Firearms owners...

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/art...nclick_check=1
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you can ask questions until youre blue in the face and get nowhere.... take the FACTS not what the media tells you and not conjecture or supposition and you put them all together until you come to a conclusion that makes sense

someone shot firefighters who responded to a fire... it was a classic ambush style shooting.. ask anyone who has ever served in wartime to take a look at the tactics employed by the shooters

firefighters are generally thought of as heroes by most americans... why shoot HEROES? makes no sense right? keep reading...

this shooting happened on christmas eve.. the one holiday in america that has the strongest emotional attatchment by most americans... christmas is generally the HAPPIEST time of year.. AND it happened in new york state.. the state w/ the strictest gun laws on the books and also the state in which the governor is pushing for forced buybacks and door to door confiscation of firearms... oh yeah... and cuomo has also put forth legislation to SUSPEND the 2nd amendment... could you choose a better target or location or situation that would generate a bigger public outcry and swing public opinion in favor of the anti gun agenda? not if you tried

the current administration has said time and time again they will not let a good crisis go to waste because it allows them to do things they otherwise would not have been able to... take it a step further w/ saul alinski in his book rules for radicals saying that if a convenient crisis doesnt happen then MANUFACTURE one.... dead children... now dead firefighters.....

i know i sound fvckin crazy... tinfoil hat shit.... but either ive gone crazy or the whole fvcking world has.... and im REALLY hoping its me whos lost his mind because the alternative..... i WANT someone to tell me im nuts... i WANT someone to give me an explanation that makes sense... the feds came for me once already... i know what kinda shit they do... its happened to me and ive seen the judges and politicians and business owners who have ended up behind the fence when they opposed the govt
Yep. This all sounds legit to me. Seriously. When the govt needs something done, they certainly aren't above manipulating how people think about a certain topic.
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you can ask questions until youre blue in the face and get nowhere.... take the FACTS not what the media tells you and not conjecture or supposition and you put them all together until you come to a conclusion that makes sense

someone shot firefighters who responded to a fire... it was a classic ambush style shooting.. ask anyone who has ever served in wartime to take a look at the tactics employed by the shooters

firefighters are generally thought of as heroes by most americans... why shoot HEROES? makes no sense right? keep reading...

this shooting happened on christmas eve.. the one holiday in america that has the strongest emotional attatchment by most americans... christmas is generally the HAPPIEST time of year.. AND it happened in new york state.. the state w/ the strictest gun laws on the books and also the state in which the governor is pushing for forced buybacks and door to door confiscation of firearms... oh yeah... and cuomo has also put forth legislation to SUSPEND the 2nd amendment... could you choose a better target or location or situation that would generate a bigger public outcry and swing public opinion in favor of the anti gun agenda? not if you tried

the current administration has said time and time again they will not let a good crisis go to waste because it allows them to do things they otherwise would not have been able to... take it a step further w/ saul alinski in his book rules for radicals saying that if a convenient crisis doesnt happen then MANUFACTURE one.... dead children... now dead firefighters.....

i know i sound fvckin crazy... tinfoil hat shit.... but either ive gone crazy or the whole fvcking world has.... and im REALLY hoping its me whos lost his mind because the alternative..... i WANT someone to tell me im nuts... i WANT someone to give me an explanation that makes sense... the feds came for me once already... i know what kinda shit they do... its happened to me and ive seen the judges and politicians and business owners who have ended up behind the fence when they opposed the govt
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:59 PM   #19
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Oh btw, This is how Ny treats Legal Firearms owners...

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/art...nclick_check=1

Seems like a map of which houses not to rob . I think I'd want to be on that list


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Oh btw, This is how Ny treats Legal Firearms owners...

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/art...nclick_check=1
I wonder how the old dot on the map thing would go over for homes with abortions. You would have the ACLU all over your hide.
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