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Old 05-01-2003, 05:49 PM   #1
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Swearing censor.

Come on!! This is a motorcycle message board with a bunch of relatively young guys who swear as a way of life. Its these guys who buy the products who keep the board financially viable. Little children and nuns are not connecting to this site. Why the H E L L do you feel the need to put a bunch of **** ing stars in place of some honest feelings. Put this board back the way it was or possibly prepare to lose customers to a place where we can be ourselves.

If you don't like swearing go to church, this isn't church.
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:52 PM   #2
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I worship my R1 does that count?


ya know... I should keep my mouth shut by I usually do not. This is a bike oriented site...most bikers swear....its not like society is not used to "profanity".....and I am sick of hearing the "kids might be reading this stuff" excuse...ya have to be 18 to register right?
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Old 05-01-2003, 06:01 PM   #3
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Old 05-01-2003, 06:13 PM   #4
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zorgen:
In the future, try e-mailing a moderator or administrator for site related issues; our guidelines and policies are quite clear at this time. We're only filtering 5-words (w/variations) thus having very little impact on conceptual content.

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Old 05-01-2003, 07:49 PM   #5
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Ever wonder what words are censored..... ****, ****, dick, ****, *****, ass, gixer.... lol
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Old 05-01-2003, 07:52 PM   #6
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I"m wondering what pourcentage of members actually have bought something from a sponsor.....

I bet not many.
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Old 05-01-2003, 07:54 PM   #7
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In the future, try e-mailing a moderator or administrator for site related issues; our guidelines and policies are quite clear at this time. We're only filtering 5-words (w/variations) thus having very little impact on conceptual content.

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Hey, I think this is a valid thread. We are the community, this is a community issue not a one man to moderator issue. I think Zorg's right.

It makes this site ridiculous. I mean, come on, it's like a bad joke.

Mods have stated that there is some 'Silent majority out there" that wants this kind of censorship, well, prove it! It's public censorship, it's a public issue worthy of discussion eh?
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Old 05-01-2003, 07:54 PM   #8
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I"m wondering what pourcentage of members actually have bought something from a sponsor.....

I bet not many.
I bought from cycle mall today.
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Old 05-01-2003, 07:57 PM   #9
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I've also Spent over $1500 at EMA-USA, and bought a ton of little things from tobefast.

I support the sponsors. I don't support censorship.
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:07 PM   #10
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In the future, try e-mailing a moderator or administrator for site related issues; our guidelines and policies are quite clear at this time. We're only filtering 5-words (w/variations) thus having very little impact on conceptual content.

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Why would I want to do that? The whole reason for making this public is to hopefully get enought people fired up to complain to you and get the frickin censor turned off.

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Old 05-01-2003, 08:11 PM   #12
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Are the sponsors listening to this?

YOU ARE DRIVING CUSTOMERS AWAY WITH THIS POLICY!

I've spent over $2000 this past year on the sponsors merchandise, and this is making me want to NOT do so in the future.
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:19 PM   #13
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I"m wondering what pourcentage of members actually have bought something from a sponsor.....

I bet not many.

i have bought from at least all of them, but we cant swear because one iam amish, and two the sponsors are morman.
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:22 PM   #14
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:23 PM   #15
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I have purchased approximately $1000 in items from sponsors.
yeah me too, look at my list of mods in my sig. most of those where bought from the sponsors.

i have never been to a sight where it has been censored to this point!!
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:37 PM   #16
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I support the sponsors. I don't support censorship.
I purchased something from a forum sponsor (won't mention any names), and the guy on the phone and the guy in the background were cussing up a storm! I thought it was funny as hell, and I thought about the PG-13 Rule while I held in my laughter.
I don't think the censorship is that big of a deal. Even with the little "*'s" I still know what message is being conveyed. Honestly, I think the site looks a little better since the censorship took effect. It's actually kinda nice to have discussions with members without constantly readin ****, ****, ****, ****sucker!
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:46 PM   #17
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Hey, I think this is a valid thread. We are the community, this is a community issue not a one man to moderator issue. I think Zorg's right.

It makes this site ridiculous. I mean, come on, it's like a bad joke.

Mods have stated that there is some 'Silent majority out there" that wants this kind of censorship, well, prove it! It's public censorship, it's a public issue worthy of discussion eh?
9mile:
First off, I never stated the thread wasn't valid, nor was the thread closed. Secondly the fastest way to have site related questions answered is by contacting the moderators/administrators directly.

Thanks!
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:53 PM   #18
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Are the sponsors listening to this?

YOU ARE DRIVING CUSTOMERS AWAY WITH THIS POLICY!

I've spent over $2000 this past year on the sponsors merchandise, and this is making me want to NOT do so in the future.
Your assumption is inaccurate. If you choose not to purchase from a sponsor due to spite, that is unfortunately your loss; our sponsors are some of the best in the business. In fact many of our sponsors own R1's, hence one of the reasons they chose to contribute towards the forums growth.

It's hard to believe you would spite yourself over the usage of colorful metaphors.

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Old 05-01-2003, 09:03 PM   #19
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Why would I want to do that? The whole reason for making this public is to hopefully get enought people fired up to complain to you and get the frickin censor turned off.

Ok?

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As I started earlier, the fastest method of achieving an answer concerning forum operations is by contacting the moderators/administrators directly. That said, we're open to suggestions, comments and pro-active advice in maintaining a well balanced community; however we refuse to deal with a mob-mentality tactic.

We've stated time and time again why the filters were enabled. Spend a moment realizing the amount of traffic on the forum and the effect overly emphasized color metaphor usage can attract unwanted attention on corporate networks. Over 25% of our forum traffic is from these environments; that is over 2000 members.

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Old 05-01-2003, 09:10 PM   #20
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The Sponsors should know what may affect their business in a negative way...Don't you think?

If a most of us think this censorship is infantile then it follows that our interest in tis site and visits will diminish, thereby decreasing the worth of this site as a platform for advertisig and sales.

Hell, if I do stop coming to this site or contributing to this site or the sponsors because of a censorship policy shouldn't they at least know why?

Censorship is making this site stand out from the rest in a silly way. Silly is not good for business.
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