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08-18-2003, 06:56 PM
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'nuff sed
Join Date: Sep 2002
Bikes: 02 Blue R1
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 1,082
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Just had the scare of my LIFE!!!!!
Ok, so many of you remember that last March I looped my 02 in a 80mph wheelie. Just too damn much power and not enough control. Well the scare I received back then sliding down the pavement at 80mph is absolutely nothing compared to what I went through yesterday...........
Here's the story........
Was out with a group of 4 other guys who were all on 600s, was in the lead on a back road with no traffic that I'd only been on once before. I remembered that it was one where you could open it ALL the way up cuz it was wide open without any trees or driveways or intersecting roads for miles and you could see forever. So I take off and put the hammer down. The road was over some rolling hills and, yes, you guessed it............
In 6th gear, under full throttle, at 165 mph the front end started to come up as I crested a shallow hill...........
Holy Bananas!!!!!!!!!! I don't care how much of a STUD you are that is NOT a good thing. I'm thinking at that speed if it comes up too high, no matter how much you slam down the rear brake and shut the throttle down you're going over due to wind drag (like you see when the Formula 1 cars go airborne) and you're not gonna stop for a LONG LONG time.
Ok, at first it happened so fast that I only had time to think about releasing the throttle and thank God (with a capital "G") it came down. But it only took about 3 seconds (after looking down at the speedo = 159mph) to realize I almost died and it what would have been a horrific crash. Not too mention my buddies haulin' a$$ behind might not have had time to stop.
Lesson learned = RESPECT THE POWER AT ALL SPEEDS AND GEARS!!!
I will be much more cognizant of shallow hills under heavy acceleration in the future.
Please everyone learn from my lesson. I hope this NEVER happens to anyone......
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I ate the gixxer with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.
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Last edited by keep-up; 08-18-2003 at 07:01 PM.
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08-18-2003, 07:28 PM
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'nuff sed
Join Date: Sep 2002
Bikes: 02 Blue R1
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 1,082
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I wanna correct something I said earlier. At 165mph I couldn't have been under full acceleration although I was at full throttle. At that speed, near the top end, the acceleration is tapering off. Therefore it really didn't require much acceleration in those conditions to create a wheelie. It really is a combination of speed, suspension, acceleration, and the wavelength of the hill to create a nasty situation. Be careful out there.
The other thing is my damper kept it rock solid when it came down also. Although I bet the scientists would argue that at that speed the wheels are creating so much angular momentum or gyroscopic force to prevent a tank slapper. I don't know. Anyone had a tank slapper at over 150mph??? I've had 'em before my damper but never at that speed.
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JG
I ate the gixxer with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.
http://www.r1-forum.com/gallery/data...ature_copy.jpg
HIGHTECHSPEED.COM tail light integrator, Supplemental LP flushmounts in tail section, homemade Lexan license plate holder, Harris tank pad, Harris grips, Intuitive frame sliders, Intuitive clutch protector, Intuitive bar-end sliders, Full Hindle Race High Exit, PCIII, DOP's Airbox Mod, K&N Filter, Graves Velocity Stacks, Scott's damper, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Gregg's Flushmounts, Schnitz mirror covers, Schnitz lowering strap, Metzeler Rennsport 190/55ZR17-RS2, Shoei RF900 TC-1 Duhamel Dragon, JR Speedmaster Jacket, JR Speedmaster Boots, Fieldsheer One Piece, Icon TiMax Gloves, grudge on my shoulder, something to prove, balls, no fear.....................Y'all are a bad influence!
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08-18-2003, 09:56 PM
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Young at heart
Join Date: Dec 2002
Bikes: '98 R1 gone....04 R1
Location: Perth Western Australia
Posts: 2,805
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Glad you made it. This is the sort of thing we keep trying to stress to guys wanting R1's as first bikes. They can catch even riders with experience out. Take care. It can be all over in a second.
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08-19-2003, 04:09 AM
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I need more money.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Bikes: 2008 GSX-R1000, 1994 Vespa PX 150
Location: Eilat, Israel
Posts: 3,020
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wooww, thats amazing, I am going out to try it. hehe. just kiddin.
Glad you made it good. R.e.s.p.e.c.t Is the name of the game, In such a powerfull bike like our 1.
Downtown.
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08-19-2003, 05:19 AM
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pavement tester....
Join Date: Mar 2002
Bikes: yes
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,288
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wowzers, close call. That would definitely be a ball shrinker in my book.
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08-19-2003, 07:43 AM
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Yup
Join Date: Mar 2003
Bikes: 02' R1 (sold) currently own 1990 FZR1000 1988 FZR400 2013 ZX-10r
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,190
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Damn how much do you weigh? I’ve been up to 175mph a few times now and the bike seems rock solid. Then again I wasn’t cresting a hill either. Sounds like you had a wild ride. 
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08-19-2003, 01:32 PM
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Tap dat...
Join Date: May 2002
Bikes: Silver 2002 R1
Location: I am a whore
Posts: 14,407
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Forgive me if I sound like an ass but isn't that a no brainer that a hill, even a small one, at that speed will either get you air or a nasty wheelie?
Glad you made it out alright mang. 
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08-19-2003, 02:08 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2003
Bikes: Y2K R1(sold!) 03 600RR 05FJR1300(Sep.) 04 TTR125LE
Location: God's green earth!
Posts: 343
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I don't know how much more of this site I can take...
You guys just don't get it! Starting out on a R1 has nothing to do with it!!!!!!!!
A 600RR will do 162....you don't need a big bike to do stupid things! You bastages are making my insurance go up...and I used my half-brain long ago to realize that kind of thing might just be a little safer on the track!!!!!
No sir....I just don't get it! Any bike...at any time....will kill your arse if you are being stupid! My bro sells bikes...guys buy a Busa or Gix 1k and don't even know which is the brake and clutch.
Just can't take any more....need some time away from reading about death and mayhem and million dollar speeding tickets....
I am going to tell my ins. agent about some of you dudes on this site..maybe they will upcharge your rookie asses instead of me!
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08-20-2003, 07:27 PM
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'nuff sed
Join Date: Sep 2002
Bikes: 02 Blue R1
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 1,082
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Originally posted by chasjR1
I am going to tell my ins. agent about some of you dudes on this site..maybe they will upcharge your rookie asses instead of me!
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Hey Mr 39 posts!!! My riding experience includes 3 bikes, 4 years, and a few track days. I will ALWAYS be a student of motorcycle riding but I'd hardly call myself a rookie or spring chicken.
Why don't you spend more time on the forum chattin' it up with the fellas and ladies before starting some S.H.I.T!!! Welcome aboard, but DAMN take some time to get to know a few folks before popping off like that.....
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JG
I ate the gixxer with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.
http://www.r1-forum.com/gallery/data...ature_copy.jpg
HIGHTECHSPEED.COM tail light integrator, Supplemental LP flushmounts in tail section, homemade Lexan license plate holder, Harris tank pad, Harris grips, Intuitive frame sliders, Intuitive clutch protector, Intuitive bar-end sliders, Full Hindle Race High Exit, PCIII, DOP's Airbox Mod, K&N Filter, Graves Velocity Stacks, Scott's damper, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Gregg's Flushmounts, Schnitz mirror covers, Schnitz lowering strap, Metzeler Rennsport 190/55ZR17-RS2, Shoei RF900 TC-1 Duhamel Dragon, JR Speedmaster Jacket, JR Speedmaster Boots, Fieldsheer One Piece, Icon TiMax Gloves, grudge on my shoulder, something to prove, balls, no fear.....................Y'all are a bad influence!
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08-20-2003, 08:58 PM
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450 coming shortly...
Join Date: May 2003
Bikes: -02 R1; -08 CRF450r; -05 KX 250(sold)
Location: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 7,695
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Quote:
Originally posted by keep-up
Hey Mr 39 posts!!! My riding experience includes 3 bikes, 4 years, and a few track days. I will ALWAYS be a student of motorcycle riding but I'd hardly call myself a rookie or spring chicken.
Why don't you spend more time on the forum chattin' it up with the fellas and ladies before starting some S.H.I.T!!! Welcome aboard, but DAMN take some time to get to know a few folks before popping off like that.....
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Exactally!!
Not a smart idea being new to the forum spitting $hit at guys here with more experience than you dude..thats not a very good idea. 
Keep up wasnt being dick on his bike trying to pop a wheelie in a residental street and almost looped it,he was on an open road enjoying the day with some buddies. He wasnt to know about the crest in the road...well Im sure he does now.
"THINK McFLY..THINK!!" before you post stuff like that again
Safe riding all,
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08-20-2003, 10:38 PM
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Until it sleeps
Join Date: Aug 2002
Bikes: Red 99' R1 15,900miles Tranny doesn't shift :-( '03 Black cbr600rr
Location: by Topeka, KS
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Wow man thats crazy!!! Ive jumped mine over a hill at 95, but wow 160 would probably make me shat my pants. I got my bike up to 185, and had a slight headshake at 171...That was kinda scary
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08-21-2003, 05:10 AM
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this ass leaves you speechless
Join Date: May 2002
Bikes: 09 R1 White/Street 09 R6 Track
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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some of the things you guys do on public roads are just plain silly. and believe me, i'm not flaming, but at some point, we as riders who,love this sport have got to grow up. there are more than enough tracks and track days in most areas to temper our need for speed. i myself have begun to attend and have plans to do even more next year. i'm glad you saved it but what about the unexpected? please fella's, leave a little margin for error and the unknown.
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08-21-2003, 05:31 AM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Dec 2002
Bikes: YZF R1 2002
Location: London
Posts: 173
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50$ the turtles head touched cloth!!
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08-21-2003, 08:51 AM
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'nuff sed
Join Date: Sep 2002
Bikes: 02 Blue R1
Location: Wichita, KS
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Quote:
Originally posted by THE MUFFIN MAN
some of the things you guys do on public roads are just plain silly. and believe me, i'm not flaming, but at some point, we as riders who,love this sport have got to grow up. there are more than enough tracks and track days in most areas to temper our need for speed. i myself have begun to attend and have plans to do even more next year. i'm glad you saved it but what about the unexpected? please fella's, leave a little margin for error and the unknown.
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You're right Muffin Man. In fact, I'm going to another track day on Labor Day. Even though I don't make top end runs very often, when I do I should have done it on a more familiar road. And even then I should have run up the road and back to check for dangers before making a run like that. Although at a lower speed I don't think I would have been aware of the impact of the hills at higher speed looking back on it. However, now that it has happened to me I will never make that kind of mistake again.
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JG
I ate the gixxer with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.
http://www.r1-forum.com/gallery/data...ature_copy.jpg
HIGHTECHSPEED.COM tail light integrator, Supplemental LP flushmounts in tail section, homemade Lexan license plate holder, Harris tank pad, Harris grips, Intuitive frame sliders, Intuitive clutch protector, Intuitive bar-end sliders, Full Hindle Race High Exit, PCIII, DOP's Airbox Mod, K&N Filter, Graves Velocity Stacks, Scott's damper, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Gregg's Flushmounts, Schnitz mirror covers, Schnitz lowering strap, Metzeler Rennsport 190/55ZR17-RS2, Shoei RF900 TC-1 Duhamel Dragon, JR Speedmaster Jacket, JR Speedmaster Boots, Fieldsheer One Piece, Icon TiMax Gloves, grudge on my shoulder, something to prove, balls, no fear.....................Y'all are a bad influence!
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08-21-2003, 02:36 PM
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Until it sleeps
Join Date: Aug 2002
Bikes: Red 99' R1 15,900miles Tranny doesn't shift :-( '03 Black cbr600rr
Location: by Topeka, KS
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I wish there were tracks near by me that would let me take my bike on.
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Full arata, Ivans airbox mod, BMC filter, SS galfer. (thanx R1@150) Ivans jetkit, DID VM530, Sprocket Specialist 42t, 01' front end, GP shift, ZG black screen, flushmounts (not installed) & clear tail lights
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08-21-2003, 02:42 PM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Feb 2002
Bikes: 99 R1/07 1098S TRE
Location: Montreal,Quebec
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When that happend,stand on the pegs while leaning forward...I know its not easy to do,much easier to say,but that is when experience comes into play......you dont really care,you are not afraid of it,you anticipate the result......
Standing on the pegs will help the bike work its way out of road imperfections and leaning forward will EVENTUALLY stop the lifting.
After that,you"ll attack that crest with anticipation.(do it again,but at 140,then raise speed as you go)
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08-21-2003, 03:11 PM
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nothing clever...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Thank you MartinC. Replies like that are why I come to this site.
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08-21-2003, 03:31 PM
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I eat my R1
Join Date: Jul 2002
Bikes: half/ Carbon R1
Location: San Diego, CA
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good to know you handled that crest. Do it again with martinc advice. I actually figured out martnc techniqued at willows straight, 160 wobbles. Using your legs as suspension really helps alot. I almost pooped myself the first time and I was in leathers. EWWW
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08-21-2003, 07:23 PM
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representin' the EZLN
Join Date: Aug 2003
Bikes: i like hayabusa's
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wow that sounds scary as hell!! but yet it sounds fun!! dont get me wrong here because this is my very first post here!! i just registered here today!! i want to learn as much as i can about bikes, and this here thread is pretty informative (safetywise)!! i dont know nothing about bikes, i eventually want to go to some sort of school to learn how to even get on one!!  to all!!
now flame on the nooB!! 
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08-21-2003, 07:49 PM
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Young at heart
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Location: Perth Western Australia
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Quote:
Originally posted by rayoracing
wow that sounds scary as hell!! but yet it sounds fun!! dont get me wrong here because this is my very first post here!! i just registered here today!! i want to learn as much as i can about bikes, and this here thread is pretty informative (safetywise)!! i dont know nothing about bikes, i eventually want to go to some sort of school to learn how to even get on one!! to all!!
now flame on the nooB!!
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 Welcome to the board. Read and learn and take it one step at a time. Please don't want an R1 for your first bike mate.
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