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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-15-2019, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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99 R1 Cant shift past 2nd

Cannot get the bike to shift into anything past 2nd. 1-N-2 shift perfectly normal, but when trying to go shift into 3rd it acts like something is blocking it. Any ideas as to what it could be?
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-15-2019, 02:41 PM
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Only way to find out is by taking it apart. Sounds like a bent shift fork. Or if your lucky maybe the shift shaft is busted and it isn't resetting properly when you shift.

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Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like. Time to rebuild your transmission.

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I'd take a look at your detent spring on your shift shaft before tearing into the transmission. Could be broken.

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Took the shift shaft cover off and this is what I found. The bolt was completely free. Is this what is causing me to not be able to shift into 3rd? What the heck would cause this bolt to rip threads and come free?
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That may be your issue but I'm not familiar with the 99 r1. Most shift shafts I have seen are not bolted on. They are held in place with a clip or shifter on one side and the cover on the other. Where did the bolt come from?

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That may be your issue but I'm not familiar with the 99 r1. Most shift shafts I have seen are not bolted on. They are held in place with a clip or shifter on one side and the cover on the other. Where did the bolt come from?
You can see where it is supposed to bolt onto the the other side of that black plate inside the shift shaft compartment.
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I see, looks like some sort of support. What I would do is reinstall the shift shaft with the cover off. Try shifting through the gears. You may have to move the rear wheel to get it in gear. See what the shift shaft does when going to 3rd. If you see nothing wrong on that end of the bike and the it operates normally then it is your transmission. Try to see if that black bracket moves while shifting.

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so most likely because the transmission is a common issue it may have been repaired once before and they didnt apply locktite to those bolts and they are backing out. it looks like it backed out then ripped out just the end of the threads. that drum needs to be pushed back in then the bolts cleaned up and holes cleaned out so put the lil red hose in the hole and spray some brake clean to get any debris out, blow it out with air to get it dry and apply some blue locktite and reinstall the bolts. it looks in the photos like the drum has backed itself out a bit and that could cause what your talking about because the forks become misaligned for the timing of the gear engagement. put it all back together properly and flip through the gears with the motor off rocking the bike forward and back or on a rear stand moving the wheel by hand to see how it is. riding it like that or having that misaligned at a worst case scenario can engage 2 gears at once and block the case apart to lock up on you so do it by hand before you test ride. let us know what you find out

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I see, looks like some sort of support. What I would do is reinstall the shift shaft with the cover off. Try shifting through the gears. You may have to move the rear wheel to get it in gear. See what the shift shaft does when going to 3rd. If you see nothing wrong on that end of the bike and the it operates normally then it is your transmission. Try to see if that black bracket moves while shifting.
the shifter is part of the cover he has removed. you can see the shift rod linkage in the photo hanging with nothing to connect to.

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Thanks Andrew. Not familiar with this bike. Just throwing ideas out there.

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Thanks Andrew. Not familiar with this bike. Just throwing ideas out there.
You I read where you said that I was just pointing it out. That's the shitty part about this you kinda have to feel your issue out. Kinda like reading brail lol.

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I see the linkage in the pic but I still thought the shift shaft was a separate component and not part of the cover.

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The bike has been fixed! After reinstalling the screw, took the bike for a ride and hit all 6 gears. Is this a new one in the world of, "my bike wont shift to 3rd gear"?
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Glad to hear. Did you use locktite this time?

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Lucky you. Could've been worse. Have fun out there.

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Did you replace the bolt?




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