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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-28-2018, 09:11 AM Thread Starter
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flat tire. bike shop won't fix. what to do?

so my 2018 R1 with 600 miles and 2 trackdays has a flat rear tire. I pulled the wheel out and took it to the bike shop only to be told they don't fix flats and then tried to sell me a new tire. I said no thanks.
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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-28-2018, 09:40 AM
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A lot of the shops here won't patch motorcycle tires, either. They claim liability. Keep calling and you'll probably find one that will. Or just patch it yourself. A patch-plug is best. I have no problem patching a street tire. As a matter of fact, my rear tire on my R1M has a patch on it, now.

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You're not supposed to patch or plug motorcycle tires... it's a liability and shops can't do it.

Motorcycle tire compounds are much softer and different than car tire construction.. Motorcycle tires heat up a lot more and the patch can let go or the plug can blow out. It's an OK thing to do to get you home.. but nowhere near a permanent fix... esp on an R1!!!
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You're not supposed to patch or plug motorcycle tires... it's a liability and shops can't do it.

Motorcycle tire compounds are much softer and different than car tire construction.. Motorcycle tires heat up a lot more and the patch can let go or the plug can blow out. It's an OK thing to do to get you home.. but nowhere near a permanent fix... esp on an R1!!!
I agree, for the couple hundred dollars it will cost it's not worth it to me to take a chance like that on a machine with two wheels and your mostly away riding at a fast pace.


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Like everything, it's a matter of opinion. Here's what I use.

Patch-plug

Never ever had a problem. I've also used just a patch. Never a problem. I wouldn't go on the track with a repaired tire, though. Too much flex and heat.

I've put thousands of street miles on patched tires.

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Like everything, it's a matter of opinion. Here's what I use.

Patch-plug

Never ever had a problem. I've also used just a patch. Never a problem. I wouldn't go on the track with a repaired tire, though. Too much flex and heat.

I've put thousands of street miles on patched tires.
I agree with you also, it's just a matter of opinion. I know it works because when I was younger I used to patch them and never had a problem. As I've gotten older I take less chances. If I walk and fall I get hurt so the thought of going down on the bike causes me to make more conservative decisions. I don't even ride the same these days, I don't get down in turns like I used to.


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I agree with you also, it's just a matter of opinion. I know it works because when I was younger I used to patch them and never had a problem. As I've gotten older I take less chances. If I walk and fall I get hurt so the thought of going down on the bike causes me to make more conservative decisions. I don't even ride the same these days, I don't get down in turns like I used to.
Same here, brother. I turned fifty last December and it takes forever to heal, now!!

For street riding, though. I have no concerns....
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Like everything, it's a matter of opinion. Here's what I use.

Patch-plug

Never ever had a problem. I've also used just a patch. Never a problem. I wouldn't go on the track with a repaired tire, though. Too much flex and heat.

I've put thousands of street miles on patched tires.
I was gonna get new rubber before next trackday, but that isn't until end of August. was hoping to get a few more street miles on the tires before then.

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Like everything, it's a matter of opinion. Here's what I use.

Patch-plug

Never ever had a problem. I've also used just a patch. Never a problem. I wouldn't go on the track with a repaired tire, though. Too much flex and heat.

I've put thousands of street miles on patched tires.
considering you get 160 miles on a tank of gas, I don't think you are going fast enough or working the tire hard to worry about tire plug failing

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considering you get 160 miles on a tank of gas, I don't think you are going fast enough or working the tire hard to worry about tire plug failing
Damn! And I wasted all that money on an R1M!

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Like everything, it's a matter of opinion. Here's what I use.

Patch-plug

Never ever had a problem. I've also used just a patch. Never a problem. I wouldn't go on the track with a repaired tire, though. Too much flex and heat.

I've put thousands of street miles on patched tires.
I checked out the link to the patch, looks pretty thorough. Whats the most mileage you've put on a tire with a patch, just wondering?


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I'm with the "a couple hundred bucks isn't worth risking my life and my bike" crowd... I would never use a patched tire for longer than it takes to get it replaced.
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I checked out the link to the patch, looks pretty thorough. Whats the most mileage you've put on a tire with a patch, just wondering?
The main street I live off of also goes to the local dump. I pick up roofing nails all the time. I have a tire machine and balancer at my house, and have literally pulled off my street and pick up a nail on a brand new tire. My wife has her own bikes as well. That's a lot of tires!

We've put three and four-thousand miles on street tires with a patch or patch-plug. Done it many times as I've lived in this house for more than twenty-years.

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who said it costs $200 to fix a flat?
you guys must be getting ripped off!
obviously if they're gonna charge me that much I would just put a new tire on there.

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who said it costs $200 to fix a flat?
I'm pretty sure that no one did.....

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I'd buy a new tire but that's just my opinion. Do whatever you want to do.

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who said it costs $200 to fix a flat?
you guys must be getting ripped off!
obviously if they're gonna charge me that much I would just put a new tire on there.
I mentioned a few hundred at the beginning of the thread but that was for a new tire, not a repaired one.


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Rides a $15k bike. Wants to patch a tire

Like others said, replace. It ain't worth the risk.
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I agree with you also, it's just a matter of opinion. I know it works because when I was younger I used to patch them and never had a problem. As I've gotten older I take less chances. If I walk and fall I get hurt so the thought of going down on the bike causes me to make more conservative decisions. I don't even ride the same these days, I don't get down in turns like I used to.
I'm in the same boat. When I was younger, I would patch and plug motorcycle tires all the time and never had any issues. When I got older, I started taking less risk ask well and just purchased new tires. The healing process is not what it used to be so the crazy days of riding is going astray...
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The tyre manufacturers have guidelines on when and how to safely patch tyres.

If I had a clean hole in the centre of a new tyre, I would probably patch it. But if it was worn or the hole was on the shoulder, then time for a new tyre.

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