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ouch!!! 120. bucks for four pieces of aluminum... just like my c-pap filters over priced in my eyes.
Here is the low down on wheel spacers..

We at Graves use 7075 T6 billet aluminum and then finish in black anodize.This compared to 6061 costs 3x more if you use a Chinese grade 7075 and 4x more if you use a USA made 7075 (which is way better and we do use). General reading will get you at an average of 7075 being about 80% stronger then most 6061 choices.


What happens when you use a softer metal is the spacer will crush on to the bearing. Over time the wheels lock up. I've seen common fixes to this by continuing to use softer metals and making the holes bigger which leads to failure in other places. Your wheels axles do not align correctly becoming a side loading time bomb and a setup nightmare.

These products in 7075 have been a staple in our race programs for years. They are tested on our race bikes, moved into consumer production and also sold through Graves Racing Services on turn key customer race bikes. I personally wouldn't trust my $25K plus bikes let alone see our company rubber stamp a sub par product just because it's cheaper but not something we'd use.. Just my .02 cents on the matter that I have a pretty good handle on...
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Here is the low down on wheel spacers..

We at Graves use 7075 T6 billet aluminum and then finish in black anodize.This compared to 6061 costs 3x more if you use a Chinese grade 7075 and 4x more if you use a USA made 7075 (which is way better and we do use). General reading will get you at an average of 7075 being about 80% stronger then most 6061 choices.


What happens when you use a softer metal is the spacer will crush on to the bearing. Over time the wheels lock up. I've seen common fixes to this by continuing to use softer metals and making the holes bigger which leads to failure in other places. Your wheels axles do not align correctly becoming a side loading time bomb and a setup nightmare.

These products in 7075 have been a staple in our race programs for years. They are tested on our race bikes, moved into consumer production and also sold through Graves Racing Services on turn key customer race bikes. I personally wouldn't trust my $25K plus bikes let alone see our company rubber stamp a sub par product just because it's cheaper but not something we'd use.. Just my .02 cents on the matter that I have a pretty good handle on...
Thank you SpidermanSS!!! You just answered my question and concerns


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Captive wheel spacers... Is that similar to something like this?
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Captive wheel spacers... Is that similar to something like this?

Graves Motorsports Rear Axle Alignment Tool R1 R6
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It's this... Graves Motorsports R1 WORKS Captive Front Wheel Spacer Kit

and this... Graves Motorsports R1 WORKS Captive Rear Wheel Spacer Kit
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I just refreshed the coupon it shows active. It's case sensitive so make sure it's all lower case and you should be fine Thanks!


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Just tried it and it works for me. I'm sure whatever Spidy did allowed it to work now.

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Just tried it and it works for me. I'm sure whatever Spidy did allowed it to work now.
It was a 7 day code. I remade it for a month. Hope my detail on the product were informative

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revisiting a recent thread, you guys made it easy as i've been wanting these suckers for my 09 R1.. Please see pm @SpidermanSS

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We never put 09-13 sets into production bacchus .. sorry


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The Fast Frank seem to be the best price from Superbikes Unlimited from what I have found so far
Fast Frank spacers rock. Their chamfered sides eliminate the possibility of the edges catching on the fork or swingarm and make wheel installation so easy, it's almost like cheating. A simple detail that other manufacturers might be wise to take a look at, and possibly incorporate into their own spacer designs.
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We never put 09-13 sets into production bacchus .. sorry
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Fast Frank spacers rock. Their chamfered sides eliminate the possibility of the edges catching on the fork or swingarm and make wheel installation so easy, it's almost like cheating. A simple detail that other manufacturers might be wise to take a look at, and possibly incorporate into their own spacer designs.
thanks for mentioning, they do manufacture 'em for my model R1.. i need these fvckers, by far my biggest pet peeve as i pile 'em miles on and tire changes are a PITA.

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I have Fast frank for front and rear.

my only complaint is you have to take them out to balance tires.
Why them out? They should have no effect on tire balance. Another advantage to captive spacers. Have never seen them removed on tire changes at the track...

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The Balancer has no way to hold them perfectly centered since they are only supported by the rubber wheel seal. Because of this they can float off center not giving a proper balance.

I questioned it as well but when my tire guy explained it made total sense. Same reason you don't balance with stock spacers.
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Why them out? They should have no effect on tire balance. Another advantage to captive spacers. Have never seen them removed on tire changes at the track...
I have captive spacers on my spare/rain wheels and they need to be removed to be balanced (I mount/balance my own tires).
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What's the point of these aftermarket spacers over stock? Thanks!


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Take your wheels off. Now put them back on. Now you get it. LOL

In all seriousness, the stock spacers are stuck in place with only grease and "sticktion". As soon as you try and put your wheel back on they simply pop out of place, making it a suuuuuuper pain in ass to re-install your wheel.

These spacers snap into place and are firmly held in place. This makes it much, much easier to re-install the wheels.
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