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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 02-19-2019, 04:04 AM Thread Starter
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2015 R1 Maximum Lean Angle?

Hi everyone,

Does anyone try to measure maximum lean angle of R1 2015 within frame slider?
I have used iphone app and speedangle, it shows about 61 degrees when I lay the bike on the ground.

And can I ask for the lean angle that I have archived in below picture, does anyone try to measure the similar?

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Lean angle is bad. Reduce your lean angle and become a better and safer rider.
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Picture doesnít work for me. The maximum lean angle depends on tires, and how balsy you are. If youíre street riding, you arenít going to come close to max lean angle unless youíre in the mountains, and even then prob not.

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I reupload the picture, maybe it can not see on mobilephone
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Lean angle is bad. Reduce your lean angle and become a better and safer rider.
Thank you, I know that, but I wanna practice to get better skill, just increase lean angle in track, not in daily road!
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Picture doesn’t work for me. The maximum lean angle depends on tires, and how balsy you are. If you’re street riding, you aren’t going to come close to max lean angle unless you’re in the mountains, and even then prob not.
Thanks! I use Pirelli diablo superbike - slick tire! Maximum angle of my bike is 61 degrees when I crash, but my friend rides s1000rr said that maximum of his bike is 64 degress when crash and I cant believe it 😂😂😂
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Thank you, I know that, but I wanna practice to get better skill, just increase lean angle in track, not in daily road!
lean angle is also bad on the track. if you are getting close to maximum lean angle then it means your body position could be better. less angle more power you can apply driving out of the corner better.

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Thanks! I use Pirelli diablo superbike - slick tire! Maximum angle of my bike is 61 degrees when I crash, but my friend rides s1000rr said that maximum of his bike is 64 degress when crash and I cant believe it 😂😂😂
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Thanks! I use Pirelli diablo superbike - slick tire! Maximum angle of my bike is 61 degrees when I crash, but my friend rides s1000rr said that maximum of his bike is 64 degress when crash and I cant believe it 😂😂😂
I’d look into gometry too. Max lean angle isn’t really that important unless you’re top level.

Plus you can alter what the bike is capable of depending on tire size I.e. 120/75F 200/60R or 120/75F, 200/65R

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Hi everyone,

Does anyone try to measure maximum lean angle of R1 2015 within frame slider?
I have used iphone app and speedangle, it shows about 61 degrees when I lay the bike on the ground.

And can I ask for the lean angle that I have archived in below picture, does anyone try to measure the similar?

Thank you!
nope never measured. Guess the only one answering your question.

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number one rule of physics.. a body in motion wants to stay in motion.

bikes are faster when ridden as straight "as possible", higher corner speeds result from 'less' of a lean angle.
as posted above, drive out of the corner is improved as well. Its likely less obvious with all that electronic
circuitry going on in modern bikes. Most folks, no offense of course, sacrifice body positioning for lean angle.
result is lower cornering speed.


now, that being said i do think its a good idea to gauge the limits of said bike as you may have
that ohh shit moment and leaning the fvck out of it may very well save your arse

OP i did see said info posted online recently, not on here. I didnt write it down, but it was less than Marquez's

i dont believe the S1kRRs max is 64 degrees.. thats definitely bullshit, its still just a roadbike

IIRC they've mentioned it at some point in the past.

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interestingly enough i just came across an article discussing the 2019 WSBK, the V4 Ducati specifically..


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Thereís also a reason why we donít see the Ducati riders riding with the same style as the rookie: the Pirelli tires. The Italian rubber needs to be ridden in a certain way. Typically thatís with as little angle as possible. Itís about getting the bike upright as soon as you can. Whereas most riders will try to carry that corner speed, the fastest riders in WorldSBK have always tried to get the bike stopped and shot out of the corner as quickly as they can by spending as little time on the angle as possible.


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Thanks! I use Pirelli diablo superbike - slick tire! Maximum angle of my bike is 61 degrees when I crash, but my friend rides s1000rr said that maximum of his bike is 64 degress when crash and I cant believe it 😂😂😂
BMW S1000rr max lean angle irrelevent, Bike stinks on track stock!!!!
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Lean angle does not mean $hit. I can hit 65 on an off-camber turn.
I had a 15 RR and could hit 62 on the track easy.

Two riders going the same speed through a turn, one leaned over more means the other rider (less lean) is more skilled.
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Two riders going the same speed through a turn, one leaned over more means the other rider (less lean) is more skilled.
this is something you can sometimes see as well, even without slow motion takes..

one things that keeps sticking with me is that those cameras they use these days are fvcking amazing..
so many frames per second to play with. We forget that for a lot of those really deep lean angle curves / shots
we see on screen, its only for a split few seconds where a rider is leaning so far over.

Also, GP bikes are designed completely different from road bikes, there really isnt much comparison

I often see a hell of a lot more trail-braking, kicking the rear around so you square off a corner and blast off than actual 'look at me, i'm leaning' scenarios.

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interestingly enough i just came across an article discussing the 2019 WSBK, the V4 Ducati specifically..


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Thereís also a reason why we donít see the Ducati riders riding with the same style as the rookie: the Pirelli tires. The Italian rubber needs to be ridden in a certain way. Typically thatís with as little angle as possible. Itís about getting the bike upright as soon as you can. Whereas most riders will try to carry that corner speed, the fastest riders in WorldSBK have always tried to get the bike stopped and shot out of the corner as quickly as they can by spending as little time on the angle as possible.


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This also depends on the bike... ride a ZX10R and yeah, point and shoot all you can or you're screwed. R1, not so much. In fact, if you're coming from a 600, the R1 will let you get away with a lot if you keep using your old 600 lines. Is it the fastest way around? Nope. But on a ZX10 or S1000RR you'd be a sitting duck if you tried it.


Ps: I'm talking stock bikes that have been race prepp'd. WSBK is whole different thing and despite new regs and etc, those bikes don't have a lot in common with what ppl here will ride in their lifetime.
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WSBK is whole different thing and despite new regs and etc, those bikes don't have a lot in common with what ppl here will ride in their lifetime.
i'm pretty sure this line is being blurred, and its only the beginning..

of course you cant always make a blanket all statement when it comes to bikes.. we all speak "in theoretical terms" more than anything

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Guess who won this race and most of the races we competed together in? Lean angle isn't everything. Its something to be managed to increase safety and speed.





Answer is 93... maybe not for long, I think 87 needs better tires. 87 is my favorite racer out there though. I'm a huge fan
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great shots! thanks for sharing
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