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post #741 of 2344 (permalink) Old 12-02-2015, 08:59 PM
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My first question is, "what and how long will they warranty the Engine itself after this "EXTENSIVE" repair?" (1) contract a lemon Law expert (2) lodge a formal complaint with the NHTSA (3) lodge a formal complaint with Yamaha. If enough people do 2 out of 3 these it could give everyone effected a more acceptable outcome ( longer warranty coverage, no charge follow up service, etc,) Those that go the Lemon Law route my end up with completey new bikes free of this particular defect, or their money refunded.

There is power in numbers... After looking at the proposed solution it's clear yamaha is offering "Spam" it's edible but not particularly pleasing.

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post #742 of 2344 (permalink) Old 12-02-2015, 09:45 PM
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Meh, I'm not gonna consider it a problem until it's a problem. Whatever they do to my bike, in MY opinion, isn't a problem until it causes one for me. I'll take it to them when they've got the parts and are ready to fix it, when they're done I'll go pick it up. If I ride it from that day forward with out any issues, I still got what I paid for. If something becomes a chronic problem, I'll deal with it when it happens. I'm not arguing anyone's point here, merely stating my own.
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Well its clear they are not going to offer a warranty with this. My state lemon law says it has to come with a 12 month 12k mile warranty for recall work.
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I'm with Rautry I'm not going to ruin my bike with a tech before the bike breaks on its own Everyone knows what happens when you remove anything and reinstall on a new bike you could be as careful as possible things bend get scratched etc,

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Not to mention the present day attitude regarding workmanship. Now the attitude is I am a bum I will do the least I can do and forget about perfecting my craft
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Why do people sound as if the ow er is expected to pay....its a recall a safety recall at that? Highly doubt this isnt covered warranty or not. Is it a certain vin range or is everyone with the furst batch affected?
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Why do people sound as if the ow er is expected to pay....its a recall a safety recall at that? Highly doubt this isnt covered warranty or not. Is it a certain vin range or is everyone with the furst batch affected?
I don't think the issue is people worrying about weather or not it's covered by warranty. It's covered by Yamaha regardless because it's a recall. I think the bigger concern is weather or not they will offer an extended warranty on the work they perform on the motor. According to the tech bulletin, all 2015 R1 and R1M are affected by this recall.
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I'm fairly certain that we can all rest easy on that issue. If you have issues related to ANYTHING done during the repairs due to the recall I can pretty much guarantee that they'll fix it no problem. I can't even imagine the backlash from that. They're coming forward with the recall, I'm sure they'll stand behind it. I for one anyway am not worried about it in the least. Kind of a "Cross that bridge when we come to it" deal.
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I'm fairly certain that we can all rest easy on that issue. If you have issues related to ANYTHING done during the repairs due to the recall I can pretty much guarantee that they'll fix it no problem. I can't even imagine the backlash from that. They're coming forward with the recall, I'm sure they'll stand behind it. I for one anyway am not worried about it in the least. Kind of a "Cross that bridge when we come to it" deal.
I'm not upset with Yamaha in the least.. yet! No one really knows what they will offer the customer for warranty and possible restitution. All we know is that they will replace the transmission gear assy with a kit.The job is 16-18 hours long to perform. An average dealership might only be able to do at best a couple bikes a week, as other work needs to be done by the "Master Techs". No way this will get done quickly with the number of bikes sold.
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You guys act like engine repair is rocket science
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I work for a dealer. I do see an update from Yamaha with the intent to recall so its coming for sure, no kits here yet though. I have not personally gotten a letter yet. Just to say I'm pretty hard on mine and haven't broken anything, anyone notice issues?
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You guys act like engine repair is rocket science
Ok take it to the guy fixing stuff in his yard.
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You guys act like engine repair is rocket science
After all they do call them crotch rockets.
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I work for a dealer. I do see an update from Yamaha with the intent to recall so its coming for sure, no kits here yet though. I have not personally gotten a letter yet. Just to say I'm pretty hard on mine and haven't broken anything, anyone notice issues?
I have been following this thread since its beginning, and just like anyone else on here am really concerned about having to get my new, expensive bike dissected. Especially if the issue only manifests itself if/when the transmission is subjected to constant high stresses, as it has been reported. Have you seen any new R1's come in your dealership for transmission issues? I have not seen any forums threads reporting transmission failures, which would indicate systematic issues with the new R1's transmissions. It would be really helpful if racing outfits such as SBU and Graves would chime in and give us an update as well as their professional opinion on whether they deem this issue as serious enough that it can present itself under normal riding conditions. After one racing season, I would assume they would have noticed transmission problems due to weak 2-3-4 gears. I don't track my CA bike (supposedly even more detuned due to stricter emissions standards), do not have the ECU reflashed, and am currently leaning towards not having the recall done. My bike shifts normally, never gave me any problems at all so far at 2500 miles, and would hate to have the bike torn apart for something that would probably not be necessary in my case. Also, I'm sure Yamaha has performed enough track testing during the development of the bike that, if the gearbox was not up to par, they would have discovered it. Maybe this recall is due to NTSB's over-zealousness.
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I have been following this thread since its beginning, and just like anyone else on here am really concerned about having to get my new, expensive bike dissected. Especially if the issue only manifests itself if/when the transmission is subjected to constant high stresses, as it has been reported. Have you seen any new R1's come in your dealership for transmission issues? I have not seen any forums threads reporting transmission failures, which would indicate systematic issues with the new R1's transmissions. It would be really helpful if racing outfits such as SBU and Graves would chime in and give us an update as well as their professional opinion on whether they deem this issue as serious enough that it can present itself under normal riding conditions. After one racing season, I would assume they would have noticed transmission problems due to weak 2-3-4 gears. I don't track my CA bike (supposedly even more detuned due to stricter emissions standards), do not have the ECU reflashed, and am currently leaning towards not having the recall done. My bike shifts normally, never gave me any problems at all so far at 2500 miles, and would hate to have the bike torn apart for something that would probably not be necessary in my case. Also, I'm sure Yamaha has performed enough track testing during the development of the bike that, if the gearbox was not up to par, they would have discovered it. Maybe this recall is due to NTSB's over-zealousness.
I have yet to see a single R1 come back with transmission issue's. I Ride both track and street with mine and haven't had an issue either
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Ok take it to the guy fixing stuff in his yard.
No quite the opposite, I'm saying take it in to get it fixed. A lot of people on here act like there are no techs out there who know how to work on an engine though and they think they're drunk buddy can do it better. And some seem to be quite happy at the prospect of lawsuits etc. Yamaha will handle, let them fix it. I find it funny too that a lot of people want an engine swap from the manufacture that they also claim is incompetent for causing this issue in the first place.
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post #759 of 2344 (permalink) Old 12-03-2015, 10:22 AM
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We need to stand up to yamaha as a group this is unacceptable i payed for a new motor not a rebulit one as of write now we cant sell it cant trade it in or ride it ill never support yamaha ever again is this not taken care of with new motors from the factory.Lets see how many rebuilt motors take a crap and you wont get any support for yamaha because you install exhaust or ecu reflash
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No quite the opposite, I'm saying take it in to get it fixed. A lot of people on here act like there are no techs out there who know how to work on an engine though and they think they're drunk buddy can do it better. And some seem to be quite happy at the prospect of lawsuits etc. Yamaha will handle, let them fix it. I find it funny too that a lot of people want an engine swap from the manufacture that they also claim is incompetent for causing this issue in the first place.
I'm pretty sure no one said anything about incompetence on the manufacturers part for causing this issue. I'm also pretty sure no one is up in arms about the fact that there is a recall. The issue here is that the issue is resolved in a manner that is acceptable to the consumer who paid a premium dollar for a premium machine. I for one am not upset that there is a recall, I like I said, want it handled correctly. Which IMO is a new motor or buyback. Like Kawi did with the zx10. When you pay between $17k-$22k on a bike, you don't want the motor opened up, unless of course your opening it up for your own reason.
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