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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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R6 still competitive?

I know lots of you guys race and have an r6 in the stable too.

I'm looking get getting into racing here in nz and am looking at an r6. I dont have the money for a real late model r6, and I realise that without later model stuff I won't be winning any championships etc, but I'd like to be capable of mid pack, or front half of the field.

My budget stretches as far as a 2008 - 2012 r6.

Is this capable of still holding it's own within its class, or are they relegated to casual track duty these days?

I know theres a bunch of other factors, ability, mods, class rules and regulations etc, but I want to know how these years of r6 fare against late model stuff?


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From what I've seen it is holding its own. And actually some testers said after riding the refreshed R6 that if they couldn't see which bike they got on, they wouldn't feel a difference.

That said I'm not an experienced or current source on racing bikes
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from 2001 to 2017 there was i think less then ten horsepower difference in stock form. the power is in line with everyone elses. they were ahead in earlier generations but i think the others have caught up now. 2008+ got some engine improvements. if you get one with a good engine and you set it up properly for you it will be quite competitive at club level and you will have alot of fun with it.
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The new R6 only has the better front end parts but other than that it’s the same. They’re pretty competitive all throughout the country in their respective classes but also comes down to the rider as well. The good thing is that there are ton of extra parts all over the marker for them as well.

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ok good to know.
Theres a few options about the same price:
'06 with some extras - full akra ehaust, race ecu, ohlins shock racebike only (cheapest option) about 12k miles $6.5k
a '13 road bike currently, been damaged and repaired I think based on fairings being aftermarket and about 8k miles, bone stock road bike $9k
'08 with 20k miles, about $8k

Ideally id like something road AND race suitable but the 06 seems like a really good deal

FYI, not in the USA so prices seem high to you guys - ive added them as a comparison - I know theyd probably be overpriced if that was US $$


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08 gets some motor improvements. id shoot for anything above that.

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So I bought a 2013 R6.
Came with GB case savers, Ohlins damper, quickshifter power commander, pipe, autotune and a few extra bits as well.

I flew up yesterday and road it 1500km home yesterday and today (930 miles) good fun but those stock R seats are clearly not made for doing that kind of mileage in one big hit!!!
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I have been told by many people that the 08/09 models were supposedly the best years, I dont know how true that is but I have seen several other threads over the years that have said the same, not sure why but I do own a 09 R6 I ride back and forth to work everyday and it has been an amazing bike, I enjoy riding it more then my others honestly.

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I have been told by many people that the 08/09 models were supposedly the best years, I dont know how true that is but I have seen several other threads over the years that have said the same, not sure why but I do own a 09 R6 I ride back and forth to work everyday and it has been an amazing bike, I enjoy riding it more then my others honestly.
thats because its about the last time the R6 saw some improvements and moved forward.

Yamaha hasnt done much R&D on those beasties for a while now. even when they slapped the new fairings, engine stayed same..

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from 2001 to 2017 there was i think less then ten horsepower difference in stock form. the power is in line with everyone elses. they were ahead in earlier generations but i think the others have caught up now. 2008+ got some engine improvements
yep.. i owned an 05, even though i liked the body style of the 08s n' such there really wasnt much else to make me want one

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I have been told by many people that the 08/09 models were supposedly the best years, I dont know how true that is but I have seen several other threads over the years that have said the same, not sure why but I do own a 09 R6 I ride back and forth to work everyday and it has been an amazing bike, I enjoy riding it more then my others honestly.
thats because its about the last time the R6 saw some improvements and moved forward.

Yamaha hasnt done much R&D on those beasties for a while now. even when they slapped the new fairings, engine stayed same..

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from 2001 to 2017 there was i think less then ten horsepower difference in stock form. the power is in line with everyone elses. they were ahead in earlier generations but i think the others have caught up now. 2008+ got some engine improvements
yep.. i owned an 05, even though i liked the body style of the 08s n' such there really wasnt much else to make me want one
They didn't change the engine are but the engine wasn't really down in power from anything else and they are pretty reliable. what they did was add all the electronics to much that bike very competitive and even though I haven't read up on where the 600ccmarket is at technology wise I'd be able willing to bet the changes they just did put it ahead of most of the competition. Changed up some weight distribution n some little stuff threw styling in there for the kids blah blah. I wouldn't judge it just because the motor didn't change much, there is no horsepower arms race going on like there is with liter bikes.

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Results from this latest weekend of CVMA in California. Yeah... the r6 is still competitive

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They didn't change the engine are but the engine wasn't really down in power from anything else and they are pretty reliable. what they did was add all the electronics to much that bike very competitive and even though I haven't read up on where the 600ccmarket is at technology wise I'd be able willing to bet the changes they just did put it ahead of most of the competition. Changed up some weight distribution n some little stuff threw styling in there for the kids blah blah. I wouldn't judge it just because the motor didn't change much, there is no horsepower arms race going on like there is with liter bikes.
I can accept that.. its just a 600. The R6 always made plenty of oomph.. i really enjoyed riding mine.

i'm a bigger guy though, would have been nice to see something similar to a 636 for shits and giggles

i just dont think i see much of a need for all 'em electronics on a 600, unless of course you're tracking


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I can accept that.. its just a 600. The R6 always made plenty of oomph.. i really enjoyed riding mine.

i'm a bigger guy though, would have been nice to see something similar to a 636 for shits and giggles

i just dont think i see much of a need for all 'em electronics on a 600, unless of course you're tracking
Probably don't need ALL of the electronics but if it keeps guys out of the ditch then I don't think it's a bad idea. I have alot of buddies with pins in appendages because of stupid stuff like sand n gravel kicked up on the road.
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^^ true dat. i think its a little different for us who are old-school.

What the fvck do you need TC for under 114rwhp

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^^ true dat. i think its a little different for us who are old-school.

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Just look at world supersport, R6 has been the absolute king since Yamaha "refreshed" it.


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