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05-20-2019 02:13 PM
bacchus40 thanks for posting a much better video.. the earlier ones did not help at all.


i hear absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.. perfectly normal, thats how an 09-14 engine sounds, and yes the tick is
there along with rattling from other sources. the clutch damper springs are probably a little loose so you can hear clutch
rattle more. thats all

i figured the camera movement may have more to do with noises other than the bike.

as posted OP because you 'hear' what you think is wrong at a specific moment then you're trying to 'bring it out'
for the rest of us. Believe me, we dont need to hear the constant revving and rpm falling to hear what we are listening
for.

we know what these bikes sound like, just simply let it sit there for a while for others to hear it properly.

it really isnt that tough, i know you believe revving it makes it 'clearer'.. it does not

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Originally Posted by benzoabuse View Post
Plus it just developed after my most recent oil and coolant flush, which is why it concerns me.
ohh for FVCK sakes, you should have started with that bit!

yes this is perfectly normal... old shitty oil slushing round masks a lot of these sounds and some folks
dont always put the exact same amount of oil that was in there the last time around. Specially the clutch
noises can change depending on oil type, quantity etc.

i've mentioned this in the past on here, i've noticed it myself but then i do put a shit tonne of miles
on my bikes so i do a lot of oil changes. Maybe thats the only difference.

i dont hear a thing wrong, at all.
05-20-2019 09:04 AM
DarkHorse Sounds normal.
05-20-2019 06:57 AM
IamLa
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Originally Posted by Aikuken View Post
You could get a temp gun and measure temps in each head. If the ones on the right are lower, then going by what iamLa experienced over the last month, tight valves could be causing poor combustion in the affected cylinder.

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OP: If you want guys to give you their opinion, post a video that is longer that a few seconds. It seems like you are still riding the bike, so ride in normal and post the video...make it 1 min or more, so guys can get a feel for the noise. If you don't want to ride it, because of the wind factor, than post a vid in a stable (none wind) environment and slowly go thru the RPM range, but do it for at least 1 min. There are a bunch of guys on here that know their shit, and are more then willing to help, but u gotta give them the info so they can digest it.

On a side note, my 2016 did have out of spec valve shims (after my rebuild) and the heat gun did show that the ones that were out of spec were running hotter. There was too much gap so they were not opening long enough to let out all the hot gases, is my guess. After I re-shimmed them they all have the same relative temp now (note: the temp does bounce around with each piston combustion). I will also say that my bike did not make that noise because the valves were staying shut longer and not opening too early.
05-20-2019 06:27 AM
Aikuken You could get a temp gun and measure temps in each head. If the ones on the right are lower, then going by what iamLa experienced over the last month, tight valves could be causing poor combustion in the affected cylinder.

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05-20-2019 05:01 AM
benzoabuse It sounds like it’s coming from the right side, head area. Tried listening and pinpointing with a screwdriver but didn’t find the location
05-20-2019 04:10 AM
Aikuken It sounds to me like clutch rattle (normal), timing chain (common) or your oil pump chain (common). None are indicative of a problem.

Can you pinpoint where its coming from? It sometimes is easy to tell if it's coming from the left or right side, or top or bottom.

Another thing to check is if it changes pitch when you clutch down.

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05-19-2019 11:43 PM
DarkHorse I can hear it now.

It sounds normal. Mine make noises too.

Everything looked fine during the cable adjustment. However, exhaust #3 was out of spec on both sides while all others were in spec.

Another member and myself came to the conclusion that it was tight from factory so yes it’s possible to be out of spec with low mileage.

I’m sure usage and maintenance place a part in that also.
05-19-2019 08:20 PM
benzoabuse https://youtu.be/IVQd7THjn14
It will inconsistently tap at idle. The entire reason I’m revving it is because that’s when you can hear it as the revs start to drop. It literally sounds like marbles in person, but not super loud to begin with.
I read about the “Yamaha Tick” way before I even owned an R1, but the videos I’ve seen on youtube about it are more of a consistent tick. Plus it just developed after my most recent oil and coolant flush, which is why it concerns me.
Also the bike sounds like shit probably because it’s a stock system? Not really sure, doesn’t sound too bad when I’m riding it but it’s quiet as ****
05-19-2019 08:06 PM
bacchus40
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Originally Posted by DarkHorse View Post
Need a longer video. It sounds somewhat similar to what i had before valve adjustment.

Need a longer video with idle also.
i was gonna post the same but couldnt bother..

OP. i dont hear no ticking clearly enough to warrant thinking you've got an issue.

video is just too damn short at idle, quit moving the camera around, it doesnt help!. you think you hear it so you hear it
right away but posted video medium doesnt always carry the same as you think. shitty mic and crappy compression
codecs dont allow sound to translate to other's speakers. hell i'm listening to laptop speakers

the 'riding' video is too noisy to be useful, bike sounds like shit but i dont know if thats the bike's fault or shitty video quality.
05-19-2019 05:47 PM
Kevap Did you click on the link I gave you and read up? That's exactly the yamaha tick. Every r1 has it. I know I've had 4 of them. Stop obsessing about this and go ride.
05-19-2019 01:20 PM
benzoabuse Took this while riding. You can hear it after 8 seconds. At idle it’s not always there, it’ll occasionally tap.

05-19-2019 01:17 PM
Kevap
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Originally Posted by bryangreen3 View Post
This is a great video
No it's not.

I can't hear anything that sounds like a ticking noise. Most likely this is just the famous yamaha tick that has been around forever. Just go ride your bike and forget about it.

Go to the link below and type in "yamaha tick" make sure to have the quotes and start reading.

https://www.r1-forum.com/forums/search.php
05-19-2019 01:15 PM
Kevap
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Originally Posted by bryangreen3 View Post
This is a great video
No it's not. I can't hear anything that sounds like a ticking noise.

Most likely this is just the famous yamaha tick that has been around forever. Just go ride your bike and forget about it.
05-19-2019 11:04 AM
bryangreen3 The manufacturer's suggested .013" is for a hot engine. For a cold engine, it should be .015". This is a great video, BTW.
05-19-2019 09:23 AM
DarkHorse Need a longer video. It sounds somewhat similar to what i had before valve adjustment.

Need a longer video with idle also.
05-18-2019 01:03 PM
benzoabuse Here’s another clip I took. It's like a metallic rattling sound. Doesn’t seem super consistent.

05-18-2019 10:48 AM
bacchus40 i would say i heard something, but cant confirm. too short, nothing but revving.

if the timing is off it could be making such a noise.
05-18-2019 10:36 AM
DarkHorse
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Originally Posted by Aikuken View Post
It's an r1. There's most likely gonna be rattling somewhere, and most likely you clutch.

I sincerely doubt its your valves at 4k+ miles.

Reset your CCT to its manufacturers spec. Too tight and you'll wreck your engine.

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I actually hear something that could be an issue but its a poor video.
05-18-2019 10:12 AM
Aikuken It's an r1. There's most likely gonna be rattling somewhere, and most likely you clutch.

I sincerely doubt its your valves at 4k+ miles.

Reset your CCT to its manufacturers spec. Too tight and you'll wreck your engine.

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05-18-2019 10:03 AM
DarkHorse All i hear is revving. Put up a better video.
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