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Hey all,

There's been a previous posting (long ago, now) regarding converting the running lights on the '04 R1 to turn signals with a bit of rewiring.

I just wanted to let anyone interested in doing this mod know that lightlens.com sells amber LED bulbs that can be used to directly replace the white incadenscent running light bulbs.

These replacement bulbs consist of a cluster of 4 amber LEDs. They are MUCH brighter than the stock bulb, and with the amber color are much more appropriate for use as a turn signal. Also, they are completely colorless when not illuminated, so unlike colored-glass incandescent bulbs they don't change the look of the headlight cluster.

Anyway, if you're interested, the product number is LED194SA. Here's a link. They're pricy ($20), but should last for the life of the bike.

BTW, I don't represent lightlens.com in any way - I'm just trying to be helpful.

Oh, one more thing - because these are LEDs they only work when installed in the socket with the correct polarity, so if you get a pair and they don't seem to work, make sure to flip them around.
 

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My buddy had his turn signals on his 02R1 integrated into the running lights. The best part it was able to pass state inspection bucause his signal lights up in a yellow light.
 

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ExHondaGuy said:
Hey all,

There's been a previous posting (long ago, now) regarding converting the running lights on the '04 R1 to turn signals with a bit of rewiring.

I just wanted to let anyone interested in doing this mod know that lightlens.com sells amber LED bulbs that can be used to directly replace the white incadenscent running light bulbs.

These replacement bulbs consist of a cluster of 4 amber LEDs. They are MUCH brighter than the stock bulb, and with the amber color are much more appropriate for use as a turn signal. Also, they are completely colorless when not illuminated, so unlike colored-glass incandescent bulbs they don't change the look of the headlight cluster.

Anyway, if you're interested, the product number is LED194SA. Here's a link. They're pricy ($20), but should last for the life of the bike.

BTW, I don't represent lightlens.com in any way - I'm just trying to be helpful.

Oh, one more thing - because these are LEDs they only work when installed in the socket with the correct polarity, so if you get a pair and they don't seem to work, make sure to flip them around.
Thanks man ! Just submitted the order - this site is going to make me broke... Do you happen to have a full writeup on how you did the wiring ? Please let me know !
 

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I think it was VAPOR that posted the thread you are talking about. Look for "First 04 mod-do it yourself." 2-16
 

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www.superbrightleds.com has the same Led's! They have them with six leds and ones with four. The six should be brighter. And they are much cheaper. They also are clear when not on. Happy shopping
Good find :thumbup . They certainly are A LOT cheaper. One possible advantage of the lightlens bulbs is that everything, including the base, is colorless, which is not true of the superbrightled bulbs (which have a yellow plastic base). Also its possible the lightens bulbs use higher efficiency LEDs, and thus they might be brighter (As a former semiconductor & optics engineer, I can tell you that all LEDs are NOT created equal). Still, none of that would seem to justify the huge price difference.
 

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When you say they are colorless when not blinking, do you mean they are white running lights? Does the bulb actually go from white to amber to white etc. ? Just wondering, thanks.:thumbup
 

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I just ordered the lightlens ones yesterday.. Jeez.. now I'm all shook u p at finding them at a cheaper price..
$hit... well too late to do anything about it now.. Ijust hope you guys are right.. and for some miraculous reason.. they are better, and brighter.

*shakes head*
 

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Well, if it makes you feel better, I can guarantee (because I already have a pair) that the lightlens LEDs are every bit as bright as the much larger 26 watt stock turn signal lights.

I'm a little suspicious that superbrightled is using cheap low output LEDs intended for displays - that would explain the price, which seems almost too cheap (about the same as incandescent bulbs).
 

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Well, if it makes you feel better, I can guarantee (because I already have a pair) that the lightlens LEDs are every bit as bright as the much larger 26 watt stock turn signal lights.

I'm a little suspicious that superbrightled is using cheap low output LEDs intended for displays - that would explain the price, which seems almost too cheap (about the same as incandescent bulbs).
OH well that's better. I dont have a problem with the price.. IF THEY ARE BRIGHT.. AND WORK WELL.. That's not my issue.. I just hate the fact that you buy one.. and the very next day.. someone posts the "same" light.. and it's fives times cheaper, and works the same....

So.. its easy to hook up hey Honda Guy? just pull out.. rewire, and replace??
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So.. its easy to hook up hey Honda Guy? just pull out.. rewire, and replace??
:dunno
Yep, that's it. The only trick is that, since LEDs are diodes and only pass current in one direction, you need to put them in the socket in the correct orientation. Basically, stick 'em in. If they don't work, flip 'em 180 degrees.
 

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Sweet.. looks like I'll havem in a week or so... Can't wait!
Thanks for the heads up!!

Now all I gotta do.. is secure some hole covers for the signals that I take off of the sides...

Any ideas?What did you do?
 

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I actually haven't done the mod yet (just tested the new LEDs), becauee I'm waiting on Gregg's Customs to produce plugs for the holes. They should be available in another week or so (I talked to Gregg).
 

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really?? Lovely.. what color?? what are they gonna look like? Rubber? Chrome??

*salivates*
 

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I actually haven't done the mod yet (just tested the new LEDs), becauee I'm waiting on Gregg's Customs to produce plugs for the holes. They should be available in another week or so (I talked to Gregg).
Also.. I just recieved an email saying that I have somehow ordered (4) FOUR bulbs and the price has gone from 20 to 40 dollars... That is a mistake yes?? Or is there 4 buulbs that fit in there?? I thought it was only 2??
what gives?
Any idea?:dunno
 

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Also.. I just recieved an email saying that I have somehow ordered (4) FOUR bulbs and the price has gone from 20 to 40 dollars... That is a mistake yes?? Or is there 4 bulbs that fit in there?? I thought it was only 2??
what gives?
Any idea?:dunno
Here is the Quote they gave me last night..


Product ID Product Name Quantity Price Action
LED194SA 194 (168) LED Super Bright Amber Mini Wedge Mount Bulbs (2 bulbs) 1 $ 19.80 Submitted
SubTotal: $ 19.80
Sales Tax: $ 0.00
Shipping and Handling: $ 3.90
Total of Order: 1 items $ 23.70


and now 15 hours later after ordering.... this is what I get in the form of an email...

Product ID Product Name Price Quantity
LED194SA_id 194 (168) LED Super Bright Amber Mini Wedge Mount Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 1
LED194SA_id 194 LED Super Bright Amber Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 1

Shipping : $ 4.90
Taxes : $ 0.00
Total price of this shipment : $ 44.50
Your account has been billed for $ 24.70

Anyone else see how this has doubled?? I didnt order (4) bulbs... (2) sets what ever...

and futhermore.. it says that I ordered two sets.. says that I owe $44.50
but right below.. says that my account has been billed for $24.50???
I'm at a loss... Can you help me Honda Guy?:dunno
 

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On they're site, the product number includes two bulbs already. When ordering, only order 1. 1 = 2 bulbs. Maybe give them an email and let them know it was a misunderstanding. And yes I know I asked, but answer still seems unclear. These lights, their on all the time right? Just turn from white running light to amber turn light. The one guy said yes they are clear when not lite? Does that mean they are not lite when not flashing? Sorry again, just don't want to waste the money if they don't act like running lights as well.:thumbup
 

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Here is the Quote they gave me last night..


Product ID Product Name Quantity Price Action
LED194SA 194 (168) LED Super Bright Amber Mini Wedge Mount Bulbs (2 bulbs) 1 $ 19.80 Submitted
SubTotal: $ 19.80
Sales Tax: $ 0.00
Shipping and Handling: $ 3.90
Total of Order: 1 items $ 23.70


and now 15 hours later after ordering.... this is what I get in the form of an email...

Product ID Product Name Price Quantity
LED194SA_id 194 (168) LED Super Bright Amber Mini Wedge Mount Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 1
LED194SA_id 194 LED Super Bright Amber Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 1

Shipping : $ 4.90
Taxes : $ 0.00
Total price of this shipment : $ 44.50
Your account has been billed for $ 24.70

Anyone else see how this has doubled?? I didnt order (4) bulbs... (2) sets what ever...

and futhermore.. it says that I ordered two sets.. says that I owe $44.50
but right below.. says that my account has been billed for $24.50???
I'm at a loss... Can you help me Honda Guy?:dunno
Yammiebender...

I have the exact same problem. I ordered 2 sets (2 x 2 bulbs - need to fit them to two R1's :D ), and here's what I get:

This email is confirmation that your order has completed processing and the following items were shipped today :
Product ID Product Name Price Quantity
LED194SA_id 194 (168) LED Super Bright Amber Mini Wedge Mount Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 2
LED194SA_id 194 LED Super Bright Amber Bulbs (2 bulbs) $ 19.80 2

Shipping : $ 9.90
Taxes : $ 0.00
Total price of this shipment : $ 89.10
Your account has been billed for $ 49.50

Price is $ 89.10, but account has been billed for $ 49.50 ? Which is it ? Hope I don't end up with 8 LEDs. Too late to do anything about it now, as the order has already shipped anyway. :dunno

I sent them an email stating I do not intend to pay for something I did not order.
 
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