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You even read my post? Who said.anything about a heel?
 

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Something I have been struggling with is my toe hits before my knee.

I have a few pics from the TD photog took that I screen shot, and you can clearly see that my toe and knee are on the same plane, but the toe is slightly lower.

Yes, the ball of my foot is on the end of the peg. I can move the peg up a notch, but it makes my knee/leg quite uncomfortable, which makes it harder to move around. Any other ideas?



I won't post the pic because I didn't pay for it....but you could pm me ;-)
That’s the only thing I can think of. Your pegs are too low. Might be uncomfortable but might have to get use to it.
 

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You even read my post? Who said.anything about a heel?
Typically, when a person's foot makes contact with the ground, it's an indication of bad footing/body postion. Sometimes, riders don't keep the front of their foot/their toes on the pegs when shifting body position into curves. This leads to the middle or heel of their foot is resting on the peg (bad footing). Other times, it's from incorrect rearset placement for someone's stature - you will mostly see this with aftermarket rearsets.

At times, you will see pro racers with the middle/heel of their foot resting on the peg, but it's mostly the outside foot which is on the other side of the bike from the direction of lean. Hence, while in any given corner, the outside foot can't hit the ground.
 

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That’s the only thing I can think of. Your pegs are too low. Might be uncomfortable but might have to get use to it.
I might move it up one hole and see if I can deal with it....Worth a shot. Gear also gave me some tips about my upper body, so we will see if that helps too.
 

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Sportbike seating positions are typically uncomfortable. Legs, arms, shoulders, back, etc. Your body will eventually get use to it.

Every year when I start riding again, my left wrist hurts for about a day from using the clutch. Then, I get used to it. Riding on the ball of my foot/toes was uncomfortable when I was taught how at my first trackday. Now, it feels lazy and awkward not to ride like that. Gradual steps, and you'll get there.
 

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Something I have been struggling with is my toe hits before my knee.

I have a few pics from the TD photog took that I screen shot, and you can clearly see that my toe and knee are on the same plane, but the toe is slightly lower.

Yes, the ball of my foot is on the end of the peg. I can move the peg up a notch, but it makes my knee/leg quite uncomfortable, which makes it harder to move around. Any other ideas?



I won't post the pic because I didn't pay for it....but you could pm me ;-)
Can you PM me the picture please and I'll see if I notice anything about your position. What is your upper body doing? Is it hanging off the side of the bike? For example, if you are going left are you leaning off the bike to the left or staying in the middle of the seat? Body position affects how much lean angle you carry so you may be carrying excess lean angle which means that pegs/toes can scrape before knees....there are other factors, small changes in foot position, overall body position, how quickly you are turning the bike.... let's look first at overall body position and foot position but you should address it :)
 

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California Superbike School round #2 (level 2) at NJMP Thunderbolt aboard one of their S1000RRs. It was in the long, even left hander (turn 10 on their map). I pulled my leg back up in reflex at first, then realized I was actually doing it! Dragged through that turn (and others) every lap after that. I was so proud of myself lol.
 

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California Superbike School round #2 (level 2) at NJMP Thunderbolt aboard one of their S1000RRs. It was in the long, even left hander (turn 10 on their map). I pulled my leg back up in reflex at first, then realized I was actually doing it! Dragged through that turn (and others) every lap after that. I was so proud of myself lol.
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I’ve been riding tracks since 03 and never even attempted to put my knee down. Always been able to run with the top of the intermediate guys. Took a 10 year break and got back into it with one day last summer and 9 so far this year, including 2 this past weekend. My goal on Saturday was to fix my body position for all the obvious reasons but specifically I wanted to get my knee down so I could better gauge my lean angle. I was already fast but without that gauge I didn’t feel comfortable to push even harder. Took 2 laps and I was scrapping the pucks like I’d been doing it forever. By the afternoon I was running with some of the advanced class guys. Put it to work again yesterday and I was consistently lapping with the advanced crew and even passing. Now, just need better pucks — ordered some klucky pucks..
 

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I’ve been riding tracks since 03 and never even attempted to put my knee down. Always been able to run with the top of the intermediate guys. Took a 10 year break and got back into it with one day last summer and 9 so far this year, including 2 this past weekend. My goal on Saturday was to fix my body position for all the obvious reasons but specifically I wanted to get my knee down so I could better gauge my lean angle. I was already fast but without that gauge I didn’t feel comfortable to push even harder. Took 2 laps and I was scrapping the pucks like I’d been doing it forever. By the afternoon I was running with some of the advanced class guys. Put it to work again yesterday and I was consistently lapping with the advanced crew and even passing. Now, just need better pucks — ordered some klucky pucks..
You could always wait for the puck to touch and float it. Dragging knee is one thing, but you can float the knee to reserve pucks. The leg is the depth gauge of lean angle, no need to keep it there, just don’t leave it there or lean more when you’re floating the knee.
 

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You could always wait for the puck to touch and float it. Dragging knee is one thing, but you can float the knee to reserve pucks. The leg is the depth gauge of lean angle, no need to keep it there, just don’t leave it there or lean more when you’re floating the knee.
100%. Those were after the first day and I was probably just excited to have the knee down. I eventually started floating the knee, what I’m guessing means slight touch and tucking it in a bit so it isn’t grinding into the ground.
 

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100%. Those were after the first day and I was probably just excited to have the knee down. I eventually started floating the knee, what I’m guessing means slight touch and tucking it in a bit so it isn’t grinding into the ground.
Yea, that’s it exactly. I did the same thing, for quite some time, because I thought it was correct procedure to drag.
 
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