I plan on tearing into it sometime this week, I'll take it out and see what I'm dealing with, I read somewhere that on some of those shorty pipes you have to cut down the midpipe, I'm hoping thats not the case with this, if it is I guess I have the ultimate excuse to get a full system. I've been looking and it's very slim pickins for any exhaust system for the 02-03's. I do have access to all the pipe bending and welding equipment I need so I may have to get creative!