[KYR1]

What's going on everybody on the forum for my fellow R1 owner's I am really stumped No I'm just one guy's please help. My 1st spin today and when I went to get back on the bike after it was part for about 7 to 10 minutes I've looked down and there's a puddle probably about the size of I don't know a smoke detector . And so add you note to the width of it notice that it was coolant not gas not oil th Thank Christ. But I'm so I start too hot wearing a hat can this coolant leak becoming from and all that I could tell From being just in the parking lot was that it's coming from the area of the oil Pan directly underneath the bike like not on the sides not on the front not on the bottom of the radiator not from the overflow canister or overflow but directly under the bike lake Underneath the exhaust and oil Pan shall I say in between those 2 above the exhaust and underneath the oil Pan. Coming out of this I guess indention or I don't know what I think it's called a depression in the oil Pan I don't know if I had that correct or not .? But I don't notice any run down of coolant or water or whatever from any higher spots on the engine or the bike just coming directly from right there I don't need the oil fan anybody have any ideas please shoot me some advice please because she is down and I have no idea what caused this and I have got the bite completely apart all All the way down to where the tank is off and I'm sitting here searching and I tell you one thing I cannot stand this fire proof mat that is on top of the motor yes I understand that it's for protection for the motor and for dirt and debris I gotta d*** i*'s a pain i* t** a** and try to lift up and fish out of there or try to see up underneath it F ML period! Literally feel like shooting myself in the foot I have found a little bit of info doing some research but I'm praying to God that is not it and if anybody can you know elaborate On this problem of mind it would be highly appreciative and And whoever can help me out or point me in the right direction I will totally buy you dinner at your next wedding.🥳🥳🥳🤙🤙🤙🫵👍👊.# Anyways I found out about something about something called the wheat hole and about coolant coming out of this little bitty hole on the oil Pan meaning that if it's coolant then it's the seals inside the water pump and if that's the case it actually is coming out of the wheat Pole and it's only cool and then I have to I guess drop the water pump or take the water pump out and replace the seals or something about some water pump mechanical seal Can somebody can tell me if I'm on the ri If I'm on the right path or not and/or if someone can help me out because if i If this is the case then I have to pull the water pump out of the bike I'm in a world of s*** up to my chest cause I am not looking forward To this test but give me wrong I am very mechanically inclined to an extent going this internal scares are living c*** out of me but as far as internal that I have gone is changing clutch plates and doing a frame swap that's not even internal so I don't even know Why isn't put that in ther Cause that's not going to turn on the internal but I am a pretty good part exchange here as long as I don't have to Go to internal but like I said I've done clutch plates and I have done a retiming my bike because I caused it to jump a tooth so I have when in take the cylinder head off and re aligned and lined up the cams and the rotor and top guard center and all that nonsense I have done that and got my bike back to running that way as well but that as far as his internal is I've gone Thanks guys stay safe out there Holler And the pictures where you see the red circle that is where the leak is coming from And also I did just do a recent coolant flush get all the old c*** out and did the flush with the steel water all the way through and to all the old coolant color was gone and all of any debris was gone If any then I fill it her up with the Stillwater and water water and turned her on until she got up to operating temperature and left the cap off until it was basically spit Spitting out of the radiator hi Filler neck where the Where the radiator cat goes on the radiator so I turn the bike off and then I topped the radiator back off with the distilled water and then put the cap on and then I started to rough again until she got up to operating temperature and make sure that there was no more bubbles and then it never overheated after that so I ran strictly to spilled water and watewetter that's it and I live in Florida by the way,,

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[Manny06R1]

It's your water/oil pump. Where do you live? A new OEM one will cost about 2 hundred and change.

 

[XShogunR1X]

Looks to be your weep hole. Seals in the water pump are going bad. You will need to replace or rebuild your pump. Not terribly hard to do, but you have to remove your exhaust, and then the oil pan. That will allow you to get to the pump.

Coolant leaking from weep hole, means coolant side seal is bad
Oil leaking means oil side seal is bad.

Always a good idea though to replace all of the seals. Sometimes its best to replace all the internals. Shop manual has guides and specs for checking the shaft on the impeller.

 

[siralfredthe4th_3265]

It is the oil/water pump, I currently have mine out as I am repairing mine for the second time in 5 years. Spend the $250 and buy a new one, I bought used and as stated am now repairing it again. Coolant through the weephole at redlights and while running but on the stand it burns right off the exhaust and very little makes it to the ground. You're going to need to remove the oil and coolant, take off the exhaust, take off the oil pan(replace oil pan gasket) 5mm allen will take off almost everything but the sprocket nut and the sleeve on the pump in one of the bolt holes securing it in. Simple but tedious process. Where are you located in FL, I am vacationing in Cocoa Beach at the end of April if you needed assistance with it and are somewhat local.

 

[KYR1]

What's going on guys I appreciate the comment back Manny Shogun and Fred appreciate your taking the time and read my post I am actually located in Jacksonville Florida and to be honest with you. Tonight which is 20th of March I planning to attempt this gremlin I already have the headers off the full exhaust everything Tanks off I mean I'm at the point where I just remove the the clutch and clutch basket and plates I've done a lot of research I have replaced clutch plates before on my old 929 that I have used to have I'm kind of familiar doing working with clutches doing it twice and I never on a Yamaha though and I just really am worried about just putting it all back together and it's leaking still I did get a Rings now I didn't get any for the oil side though just for the coolant side any thoughts on that cuz I was told that to get to the mechanical seal which is the one that's leaking I'm sure or the reason why it's leaking I have to take off six other SEALS or O-rings and have to and should replace those with new ones no matter what is what I was told

 

[XShogunR1X]

What's going on guys I appreciate the comment back Manny Shogun and Fred appreciate your taking the time and read my post I am actually located in Jacksonville Florida and to be honest with you. Tonight which is 20th of March I planning to attempt this gremlin I already have the headers off the full exhaust everything Tanks off I mean I'm at the point where I just remove the the clutch and clutch basket and plates I've done a lot of research I have replaced clutch plates before on my old 929 that I have used to have I'm kind of familiar doing working with clutches doing it twice and I never on a Yamaha though and I just really am worried about just putting it all back together and it's leaking still I did get a Rings now I didn't get any for the oil side though just for the coolant side any thoughts on that cuz I was told that to get to the mechanical seal which is the one that's leaking I'm sure or the reason why it's leaking I have to take off six other SEALS or O-rings and have to and should replace those with new ones no matter what is what I was told

When rebuilding the water/oil pump its always best to replace every seal and o-ring

 

[siralfredthe4th_3265]

You don't have to remove the clutch at all but I would recommend changing all seals seeing as they are cheap but to have to do this process again would be way more costly.

 

[KYR1]

Hey Fred thanks for the Post back then please elaborate on the part where he says you don't have to remove the clutch I thought to get the pump out you have to remove the clutch due to the fact of the chain driven oil pump if there's a way to change the seal out without pulling the clutch and the clutch basket and all that please tell me cuz I thought that's what had to be done and tell me what you think about this I do have brand new O-rings I have an assortment of O-rings different sizes different different types I have different sizes and an assortment of oil resistant I have a different sizes and type for a water pump O-rings now they're not necessarily from Yamaha but if they're the same size O ring it's an oil resistant it shouldn't be an issue right I should be able to replace it with just another o-ring correct yes or no?

 

[siralfredthe4th_3265]

If you put a 10 mm ratcheting wrench on the sprocket nut it will come out. From there you wiggle the sprocket off and let it dangle in the chain once it's free then it's just a couple of wiggles and she'll pop right out. By wiggles I mean push the unit to the right side towards the sprocket you just removed and it should free the unit from the inlet pike located on the left side of the bike if you were sitting on it. And once towards the rear, as long as you have all the bolts out as well as the sleeve thing(I forget what it's actually called)then that pump should come right out.

 

[siralfredthe4th_3265]

Hey Fred thanks for the Post back then please elaborate on the part where he says you don't have to remove the clutch I thought to get the pump out you have to remove the clutch due to the fact of the chain driven oil pump if there's a way to change the seal out without pulling the clutch and the clutch basket and all that please tell me cuz I thought that's what had to be done and tell me what you think about this I do have brand new O-rings I have an assortment of O-rings different sizes different different types I have different sizes and an assortment of oil resistant I have a different sizes and type for a water pump O-rings now they're not necessarily from Yamaha but if they're the same size O ring it's an oil resistant it shouldn't be an issue right I should be able to replace it with just another o-ring correct yes or no?

Usually in every other scenario outside of motorcycles I would say yes on the O rings but from my own personal experiences I would strongly suggest you save yourself the potential frustration/anger and skip the trial and error and just go with what is proven to work. I made the mistake of putting stop leak in my system and paid the price horribly with every seal needing to be replaced and I tried my own o-ring method multiple times on each one before biting the bullet and ordering Yamaha ones. But maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

 

[XShogunR1X]

Yeah the clutch doesn't have to come out for this, but you will have to get a little creative to get the sprocket side out. But it's really not hard.

As for the o-rings, really just get the OEM stuff as it's going to be 100% correct and you won't have to worry about fitment problems.