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Hi all I'm hoping some of you r1 gods can help me out apologies for the long description but I'm due giving up!

I'm new to the forum and have recently got a 1999 r1 32000 miles I've been out on it once and it feels like I've no power in the lower rpms like its sluggish Surely an r1 should lift when you crack the throttle or I should be feeling very wary of the throttle atleast but I'm able to open it as much as i want outcome is always the same the bike doesn't lift im not wanting to get it on the back wheel after just getting it but I should have more power down low should I not? It doesn't feel like I'm on an r1 I also have a leak coming from one of the carbs only very slight few drops on the bottom of the carburettor on the left if your sitting on the bike when you move the bike in the morning but after running it for a while this stopped then started again when the bike was totally cooled down later that night unsure whether this would be the case of the sluggish feeling prior to this the bike was sitting for 4 years with water in the carbs also the valve clearance was zero to the point the cam was constantly touching. I wanted to know if a really good run would solve these issue as its been sat for so long hope this is enough info for someone to give me advice and help i really don't want to part ways with it carbs coolant etc all got rebuilt and changed thanks in advance rab
 

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If the carbs were changed, something is wrong as they shouldn’t leak fuel. All of the fuel should remain inside of the bowls until needed.
the valve clearances should be adjusted as no amount of riding/throttle tuning will put them back into spec.
 

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Thanks whyzeef I'll check that out bike sounds like there's nothing wrong when revving it in neutral and it idles nicely but when your in gear it feels as though there's very little power there it does pull but its no where near what I expected it to be.
 

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Hi, just a thought , do you have the exup still connected, if so is it opening up?
Also could be the dreaded "left too long with fuel and gummed up a bit" wouldn't hurt to have the carbs off and a check up, when the carbs are off take the float bowls off and check the float height, there are many ways of setting the float heights when you go on YouTube but really only one correct way, this could be an issue, I just bought a carb rebuild kit for my 2000 5jj so going to set about it soon.
I think when upturned the height should be 6-7mm from gasket seat....
Cheers
P.S I got my bike a year ago, expected it to be an animal, it is good but then I'm a fat bastard so the bike is probably complaining a bit :)
 

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Hi, just a thought , do you have the exup still connected, if so is it opening up?
Also could be the dreaded "left too long with fuel and gummed up a bit" wouldn't hurt to have the carbs off and a check up, when the carbs are off take the float bowls off and check the float height, there are many ways of setting the float heights when you go on YouTube but really only one correct way, this could be an issue, I just bought a carb rebuild kit for my 2000 5jj so going to set about it soon.
I think when upturned the height should be 6-7mm from gasket seat....
Cheers
P.S I got my bike a year ago, expected it to be an animal, it is good but then I'm a fat bastard so the bike is probably complaining a bit :)
Hi r1turkey thanks for the reply appologies for the delay in getting back to you I've been dealing with some dreaded r1 issues lol ive also just recently got my r1 took me a while to get it on the road as I wanted to make sure everything was spot on I had to get my carbs rebuilt as I didn't have the time to try and learn everything. After doing so though it Runs alot better pulls like a train my ex up valve had to be reconditioned so that aswell as the carbs were giving issues but it had been sitting a while so it was on the to do list hope you got your bike sorted out?
cheers rab
 

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Thanks svennie I've got those issues sorted out now mate i ended up having to get the valves checked carbs rebuilt and ex up valve reconditioned and do on she pulls like a train now lol im having an issue with the coolant when I took it out a good blast yesterday trying to keep up with a mate towards the end of the run when I was on my way back my bike started smoking white and had pissed some of the coolant on the floor looked as though it came from the overflow from the resevoir id say it was around 250ml-350ml but that is a guess. I've since had the fairings off it and refilled the radiator and resevoir bottle as this was empty fired it up with the radiator cap off to let any air out bubble away for around a minute refilled again As the level had dropped in the radiator seemed all spot on after I fired it up and let it get to temperature untill the fan kicked on I've since took it out a run late last night and no more leaks temp doesn't shoot up either it goes up steady If I make my bike work like I did yesterday will this have sorted my issue out if it doesn't give me another leak or would I be doing more damage to my engine have you ever heard of someone having the same issue or similar with a 99 r1 I've yet to check the fluid again levels today but I'll let you know how that goes I've just passed my test and wanted a good bit of fun out this bike before the bad winter sets in I did make another post up in more detail mate if that's any better? Thanks in advance rab.
 

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Thanks svennie I've got those issues sorted out now mate i ended up having to get the valves checked carbs rebuilt and ex up valve reconditioned and do on she pulls like a train now lol im having an issue with the coolant when I took it out a good blast yesterday trying to keep up with a mate towards the end of the run when I was on my way back my bike started smoking white and had pissed some of the coolant on the floor looked as though it came from the overflow from the resevoir id say it was around 250ml-350ml but that is a guess. I've since had the fairings off it and refilled the radiator and resevoir bottle as this was empty fired it up with the radiator cap off to let any air out bubble away for around a minute refilled again As the level had dropped in the radiator seemed all spot on after I fired it up and let it get to temperature untill the fan kicked on I've since took it out a run late last night and no more leaks temp doesn't shoot up either it goes up steady If I make my bike work like I did yesterday will this have sorted my issue out if it doesn't give me another leak or would I be doing more damage to my engine have you ever heard of someone having the same issue or similar with a 99 r1 I've yet to check the fluid again levels today but I'll let you know how that goes I've just passed my test and wanted a good bit of fun out this bike before the bad winter sets in I did make another post up in more detail mate if that's any better? Thanks in advance rab.
White smoke from the exhaust is indicative of a head gasket failure. If in your shoes I'd do a leakdown test before running the bike again. It'd be a pity to bend a rod.
 

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Probably just low on coolant when you bought it. Got it hot enough to cause it to cook off a little. Say when you check compression, the cylinder next to it will show there is a burnt head gasket and the cylinder you are taking a compression on will show zero compression if not low to see you are bleeding over at the other cylinder and is one way of finding out if the gasket failed.

Another test is to remove each plug and who is the most clean? It looks new out of the box, because it was steam cleaned and there is your head gasket leak times 2 ways.

Go back out, get some riding hours in and just run the speed limits. Pull off to the side, let it idle as you walk around it for leaks; get back on and head home. Let me retract. Have the coolant up to the neck before you go out. Top the coolant off in the rez to its high mark. Now go out and ride.

Let me retract again. Go ride with a buddy and let them follow you to watch for the white smoke as to what 120 said, and if it begins to show that, take it home. The next part of coolant loss is the radiator cap. When you come back and see the rez is low, that says it puked out of the drain, sucked it back in at the rez tank, you are down below the radi neck, and you are low in the rez level>>> Radi cap failure.

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Constant white smoke and evaps right out of the pipe is steam, not oil, not rich gas. Gas and oil linger around.
Compression loss on a good known cylinder which was excellent before an alleged leak.
Radi cap cannot hold the 14.7 psi once reached.
 

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White smoke from the exhaust is indicative of a head gasket failure. If in your shoes I'd do a leakdown test before running the bike again. It'd be a pity to bend a rod.
Hi thanks for the reply
It's not white smoke from the exhaust it was coming from the front of the bike it could have just been the coolant leaking out and catching on the exhaust pipes at the front of the bike giving me the white smoke but it being my first big bike I had thought the worst. I don't think watching those videos on you tube helped as I seen a couple catch fire and with the luck I've been having it wouldn't have been a surprise if it was happening to me mate.
 

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Hi thanks for the reply
It's not white smoke from the exhaust it was coming from the front of the bike it could have just been the coolant leaking out and catching on the exhaust pipes at the front of the bike giving me the white smoke but it being my first big bike I had thought the worst. I don't think watching those videos on you tube helped as I seen a couple catch fire and with the luck I've been having it wouldn't have been a surprise if it was happening to me mate.
In that case, I'd change my radiator cap, it's a cheap part and it might fix it. If your rad cap is already new though, you might want to skip that idea.
 

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Probably just low on coolant when you bought it. Got it hot enough to cause it to cook off a little. Say when you check compression, the cylinder next to it will show there is a burnt head gasket and the cylinder you are taking a compression on will show zero compression if not low to see you are bleeding over at the other cylinder and is one way of finding out if the gasket failed.

Another test is to remove each plug and who is the most clean? It looks new out of the box, because it was steam cleaned and there is your head gasket leak times 2 ways.

Go back out, get some riding hours in and just run the speed limits. Pull off to the side, let it idle as you walk around it for leaks; get back on and head home. Let me retract. Have the coolant up to the neck before you go out. Top the coolant off in the rez to its high mark. Now go out and ride.

Let me retract again. Go ride with a buddy and let them follow you to watch for the white smoke as to what 120 said, and if it begins to show that, take it home. The next part of coolant loss is the radiator cap. When you come back and see the rez is low, that says it puked out of the drain, sucked it back in at the rez tank, you are down below the radi neck, and you are low in the rez level>>> Radi cap failure.

Recap:
Constant white smoke and evaps right out of the pipe is steam, not oil, not rich gas. Gas and oil linger around.
Compression loss on a good known cylinder which was excellent before an alleged leak.
Radi cap cannot hold the 14.7 psi once reached.
Hi thanks for the reply mate
I've Managed to get down to the issue I think. I took the bike out a run today after filing up the radiator back up to full I filled the resevoir tank half way up as I wasn't sure how much I should fill it. I took the radiator cap off ran the bike untill it stopped showing bubbles and then cap back on let it heat right up to temp untill the fan kicked in then I cut the bike out checked all the fluids again all were in good order so I put the fairings back on and took it gentle run stayed within temp and no leaks checked the fluids again this morning all were spot on so I took it out a good blast and as luck would have it no leaks atall happy fucking days it was pulling like a train possibly may have over stepped the mark a few times as I wanted to work the engine hard seen as that's how it happend yesterday temp gauge never went past the 90s even at a set of lights before I was sitting at around the 100s mark. I think it may have been air in the system or the coolant having too much in it I was out on it a good few hours and had no issues I had read on a few posts on here it could be head gasket related. so glad it's not though I'll check the coolant again just to make sure as the bikes cooling down at the min thanks for your help and to everyone else that commented i plan on keeping this monster so if I can sort the issues myself rather than taking it to a mechanic ill be happy thanks again guys.
 

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I'll try a new radiator cap as well just to be on the safe side and I ran the bike as a friend had said to try that incase I had air in the system and true enough it had some bubbles surface hence the reason for me thinking it was fixed
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Color of oil would get you out of the woods thinking of all this back and forth? That would tell if coolant is contaminating the engine, and would kill 2 birds showing the bubbles due to lost compression out of the head gasket. Usually it's a heavy cream coffee color, rather than your normal uncontaminated clear look-thru caramel color. Black or dark like you haven't changed the oil in awhile is another good sign no water contamination.
 

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If it's a leak between the water jacket and the cylinder there will be no show in the oil though.
Color of oil would get you out of the woods thinking of all this back and forth? That would tell if coolant is contaminating the engine, and would kill 2 birds showing the bubbles due to lost compression out of the head gasket. Usually it's a heavy cream coffee color, rather than your normal uncontaminated clear look-thru caramel color. Black or dark like you haven't changed the oil in awhile is another good sign no water contamination.
 

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If it's a leak between the water jacket and the cylinder there will be no show in the oil though.
When engine is running and bubbles occur in the radiator, that usually says compression loss at the head gasket.
Water being heavier than oil, you can break the drain bolt just a crack and water comes out first before the oil.
When a head gasket does blow, it is amazing to see how clean the head/piston/valves are as if new out of the box.
Some of my experience has been with clear water having yet to mix with say in a car's engine. Bikes have a smaller mixing bowl you might say and cream up faster.

So background for home he here is 'heavy line' work and that means oil leaks, water leaks, engine rebuild, trans rebuild, rear end rebuild, transfer case rebuilds; means the heavy stuff in the auto industry. Japanese cars you know from wheel to wheel like a bike. Back to the American way, where 15A is an interior electrical specialist. I forget tune up being called drivability, but there are these special areas like, a front end alignment specialist.

GL1000's back in the day were notorious for chocolate oil contamination and parts looking brand new once the head came off. But the milk color was the sign the head was blown. Just want to get that out in the trouble tree go look see.
 

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When engine is running and bubbles occur in the radiator, that usually says compression loss at the head gasket.
Water being heavier than oil, you can break the drain bolt just a crack and water comes out first before the oil.
When a head gasket does blow, it is amazing to see how clean the head/piston/valves are as if new out of the box.
Some of my experience has been with clear water having yet to mix with say in a car's engine. Bikes have a smaller mixing bowl you might say and cream up faster.

So background for home he here is 'heavy line' work and that means oil leaks, water leaks, engine rebuild, trans rebuild, rear end rebuild, transfer case rebuilds; means the heavy stuff in the auto industry. Japanese cars you know from wheel to wheel like a bike. Back to the American way, where 15A is an interior electrical specialist. I forget tune up being called drivability, but there are these special areas like, a front end alignment specialist.

GL1000's back in the day were notorious for chocolate oil contamination and parts looking brand new once the head came off. But the milk color was the sign the head was blown. Just want to get that out in the trouble tree go look see.
Completely accurate, however, a leak between the combustion chamber and the water jacket still won't leave any sign in the oil bud. Oil will be just as clean as it should be and the gasket will be just as blown as it could be.

Wait long enough and you get to resurface the head and the cylinder instead of just swap a gasket.
 

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Color of oil would get you out of the woods thinking of all this back and forth? That would tell if coolant is contaminating the engine, and would kill 2 birds showing the bubbles due to lost compression out of the head gasket. Usually it's a heavy cream coffee color, rather than your normal uncontaminated clear look-thru caramel color. Black or dark like you haven't changed the oil in awhile is another good sign no water contamination.
Hi guys
appologies for the delay in getting back to you I work nights and isn't always easy for me to get online. I've checked out the oil its a dark brown pretty much the same colour it was when I put it in. The oil and filter got changed around 2 weeks ago.
 

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My oil isn't going milky or lost its colour much if anything. Coolant isn't boiling over either. Everything stays within temp and if I go hard on the power brings the temp down the 70s if not lower but it is getting colder here. Would i notice if my head gasket was leaking would I be down on power? or have something wrong somewhere that would make a noticeable difference? I'm going to recheck my coolant to see if there at the same level you guys have just made me change my boxer shorts reading all your posts here I certainly hope for my sake it's not head gasket related.
 
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