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Hi all,
First apologies if this isn't the right place for such a topic or discussion and mods feel free to move it if needs be.

Just thought I'd document my first foray into the world of racing, it's ups and down, highs and lows, my opinions as a rookie, lessons learned etc.

First some background, I'm relatively new to bikes, having ridden for 8 years, I'm now 36, so a late starter, odd really, as my father raced in his youth, both short circuit and on the roads, even racing at the Isle Of Man TT a few times.

It's always been something I was keen to try, but a career in the forces and later my injuries from that job just held me back trying until I was physically and mentally well enough.

Fast forward some years of recovering and I found myself with a new role as a Firefighter and an empty space in a garage.

Did my Mod 1 & 2 (UK license) and bought myself an R6, 2005, from there I moved through R6s, onto 1000cc with a Blade, S1000RR and then what I have now, my 2017 R1, I started doing trackdays early on, while I enjoyed riding on the road, I found the risks vs reward lacking, if I had nine lives I was sure I'd already used up most of those, so, with the amount of fun I was having on track, decided to just focus on trackdays.

By the start of this year I'd done a few.. loads in fact, pretty much everywhere in the UK and a few abroad, Portimao, Jerez, mugello etc.

I'd like to say I'm not fast, and while on your average trackday I'm normally at the top of Fast group, what racing has shown me is that it means absolutely nothing, ZERO.

So in June this year myself and my good friend decided that we'd give big bike racing a go, at this point we'd already raced smaller bikes, our 140cc pitbikes to 125cc Hondas in 6 endurance races.




Here's a video of a race in the BMB championship

We booked on a course of our race licences (ACU in the UK) and a week later I found myself on the start grid at Donington Park, I'd entered the Powerbikes class and was taking part in the Newcomers rookie race.




RACE 1
I was nervous, surrounded by some of the fastest guys outside of the BSB, on machines with suspension that cost more than my whole bike.. when your a rookie you wear a bib, a bright orange thing denoting your novice status, I was the only rider wearing one.
Somehow I'd qualified not last, starting from 24th out of 34..I got the R1 on the line.. watched the lights....all Red....then they disappeared..GO!
The R1 took off, the LIF control fighting the 100% throttle I was putting through it , a short shift to second and third before turn one, I'd overtaken 6 bikes before tipping it in, but found myself surrounded and off line, I felt like I had zero ability to focus on anything, my brain at 100% capacity, I dropped back two spaces and tried getting my head down into the very fast downhill section that's Craners, the pace of racing was so far beyond what I'd experienced at a trackday, by lap 4 I was 19th, sweating, far too stiff on the bike, and coming down the start finish straight I totally missed my brake marker, and took a swift detour into the gravel..I don't know how I stayed on, but I did, I came out at the back of the grid in a lonely race for the remaining 6 laps.

Getting back to the paddock my friends I was racing with came over to offer support at a race gone wrong..I didn't need it, that race was the most intense, wildest, most awesome experience I'd had since leaving the Army, I was instantly addicted!

RACE 2 was another learning experience, this time a simple one, "make sure you have enough fuel".
I was running 20th until I ran out :rolleyes:

From there it was straight into the Newcomers or rookies race, this time everyone had bibs on.
I started 15th on the grid, ran wide on turn one again, but this time stayed out of the gravel and started making my way through the riders, finishing 4th overall, a result I was extremely happy with, definitely my favourite race of the weekend, manage to have a great battle with a friend on his awesome R6.

The biggest lesson I learnt from that weekend is that ABS has no place on a race bike, it was costing me a load of time and running me on throughout the weekend, so that's now gone and replaced with the I2M plug and new Hel lines.

Here's a video of that race

And that was my first experience of racing, from there I've done another round at Pembrey Circuit, a local track to me in Wales, finishing 5th in the Newcomers race, some how I ended up buying another race bike, a Suzuki Bandit 600, a bike id never ridden or seen before heading out for 10 minutes of free practice, I raced that for the first time there, finishing 14th overall.
A vastly different bike to the R1, far less demanding physically, so the plan is to race both of these going forward.

Currently I'm 5th in the rookies championship with the next rounds at Cadwell Park and Brand Hatch GP in two weeks time.

I shall update this thread as I progress.

Any questions feel free to ask, or any pointers, tips or tricks please do share, I shall need all the help I can get!

Thanks
Dave
 

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Hey Dave! Super cool, thanks for posting it. I remember my first race a few years ago as well. Started track riding in 2011, took a couple breaks between owning and totaling motorcycles from crashes, ultimately to give racing a try again. My first race I started 12th outta 20 and ended 12th out of 20. This year is much better with 6 rounds down and me missing three race weekends I am still 5th in championship all things considered. Best finish this year is a 2nd place, got a lot of work to do.

it’s fun isn’t it? Getting into battles with other guys and developing racecraft. Trying to play mind games with the guy in front of you at 100+ is stressful and rewarding at the same time.

Good luck brother, rooting for you!
 

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Hiya Gear,
It's incredibly fun and like I said, I'm addicted, I learnt more from my first race than all the trackdays combined, with the racecraft, even just setting yourself up for overtakes, how different lines change things, the pros and cons etc.
Sounds like you're doing really well bud and I wish you the best of luck going forward!
I can't see me finishing as high up within my first season, if only for the fact I simply can't afford to get new tyres for every race and qualifying session.
But I'm going make the most of it and just enjoy the experience.
Keep me posted on your progress!
 

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Race report and roundup from rounds 12-14 at Cadwell Park (home of the mountain)

Well another race weekend is over with and what an absolute blast it was.

The weather is blisteringly hot for the UK, 30c, not a cloud in the sky, arrived at the circuit on the Thursday night ready for the test day on Friday, before the races began on Saturday and Sunday, we got to setting our little area up and started to prep for the following day.
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Test day went well, I've only been to Cadwell once before, not long after getting the R1, so i needed as much time on both the R1 and the Suzuki Bandit to get up to speed, sadly my goal of getting some air over the mountain on the Bandit didn't happen, i knew i could do i on the R1 but alas, the old girl is just too slow and heavy with me on it.

But here's a pic from the first visit on the R1
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On to the Saturday and the our first races, so for me, i'm racing in two Classes, the first being the Newcomers Open Championship, on the R1, and secondly, the Suzuki Bandit Challenge Championship, which it's is broken down into Rookies, seniors and overall.

the racing within this class is extremely competitive, with little to no changes allowed on the bike, minus brake lines, gearing, rear shock, and a cap of 76hp.

our races also feature other classes, JSS and F400s, so it's a packed grid with about 40 bikes

Race 1 got under way and i found myself making my way through the pack, carrying more corner speed than the 400s but losing out down the straights, crossing the line i finished 10th overall and 2nd in Rookies:giggle:, a great result for me having only ridden the bike for one race beforehand.

From there it was a short wait before the Newcomers Open Race on the R1, currently I'm 6th in the Championship, tailing my friend Rhydian on his R6, he's a talented rider, and if I'm honest, just faster than me currently.

I Started the Race in 4th and finished 6th, not the best result, not the worst result, I'll take that :)


Here's the Race, i knew my mate would come past me, so tried to give him some space and stayed right until he did.


On to day 2, no races on the R1, just two races on the bandit.

Race 2 saw me start from 18th and make my way up to 11th overall and again, 2nd in class for Rookies, trying my hardest to keep up with my good friend Drew who's currently leading the Championship, i was getting faster, but just not fast enough to catch him.

Here's that video

Race 3, the final race of the weekend, this time, i was starting right behind my mate Drew, we got underway and had what for me, was the most fun I've had on a bike, we ending up rubbing leathers and bikes, me going up the inside of him into the hairpin, only for him to return the favour into turn 2 with a gentle love tap, it was utterly awesome, and sadly for me, lit the fuse for him, resulting in us both setting our fastest laps of the weekend, shaving seconds off.

I finished 8th overall and 2nd in class, a really positive start to my Bandit racing.

Here's that Race

I also Won Rookie of the weekend and got my first trophy:giggle:
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And that's my round up, a brilliant time with awesome people doing what i love.

No time to rest though, I'm racing again this weekend, this time with a different club (Bemsee) along with one of my best mates, it's his first time racing, both of us on R1s, on a track we've never ridden, Brands Hatch GP, we've got half a day of testing, then straight into qualifying Saturday morning, it's going to be great.

Cheers for reading guys, btw, i'm not one to promote myself, but if anyone fancies following me on Instagram ( Focused_Veteran ) it would be much appreciated, all i post is bikes, fitness and Firefighting stuff.

All the best
Dave
 

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Race report and roundup from rounds 12-14 at Cadwell Park (home of the mountain)

Well another race weekend is over with and what an absolute blast it was.

The weather is blisteringly hot for the UK, 30c, not a cloud in the sky, arrived at the circuit on the Thursday night ready for the test day on Friday, before the races began on Saturday and Sunday, we got to setting our little area up and started to prep for the following day.
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Test day went well, I've only been to Cadwell once before, not long after getting the R1, so i needed as much time on both the R1 and the Suzuki Bandit to get up to speed, sadly my goal of getting some air over the mountain on the Bandit didn't happen, i knew i could do i on the R1 but alas, the old girl is just too slow and heavy with me on it.

But here's a pic from the first visit on the R1
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On to the Saturday and the our first races, so for me, i'm racing in two Classes, the first being the Newcomers Open Championship, on the R1, and secondly, the Suzuki Bandit Challenge Championship, which it's is broken down into Rookies, seniors and overall.

the racing within this class is extremely competitive, with little to no changes allowed on the bike, minus brake lines, gearing, rear shock, and a cap of 76hp.

our races also feature other classes, JSS and F400s, so it's a packed grid with about 40 bikes

Race 1 got under way and i found myself making my way through the pack, carrying more corner speed than the 400s but losing out down the straights, crossing the line i finished 10th overall and 2nd in Rookies:giggle:, a great result for me having only ridden the bike for one race beforehand.

From there it was a short wait before the Newcomers Open Race on the R1, currently I'm 6th in the Championship, tailing my friend Rhydian on his R6, he's a talented rider, and if I'm honest, just faster than me currently.

I Started the Race in 4th and finished 6th, not the best result, not the worst result, I'll take that :)


Here's the Race, i knew my mate would come past me, so tried to give him some space and stayed right until he did.


On to day 2, no races on the R1, just two races on the bandit.

Race 2 saw me start from 18th and make my way up to 11th overall and again, 2nd in class for Rookies, trying my hardest to keep up with my good friend Drew who's currently leading the Championship, i was getting faster, but just not fast enough to catch him.

Here's that video

Race 3, the final race of the weekend, this time, i was starting right behind my mate Drew, we got underway and had what for me, was the most fun I've had on a bike, we ending up rubbing leathers and bikes, me going up the inside of him into the hairpin, only for him to return the favour into turn 2 with a gentle love tap, it was utterly awesome, and sadly for me, lit the fuse for him, resulting in us both setting our fastest laps of the weekend, shaving seconds off.

I finished 8th overall and 2nd in class, a really positive start to my Bandit racing.

Here's that Race

I also Won Rookie of the weekend and got my first trophy:giggle:
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And that's my round up, a brilliant time with awesome people doing what i love.

No time to rest though, I'm racing again this weekend, this time with a different club (Bemsee) along with one of my best mates, it's his first time racing, both of us on R1s, on a track we've never ridden, Brands Hatch GP, we've got half a day of testing, then straight into qualifying Saturday morning, it's going to be great.

Cheers for reading guys, btw, i'm not one to promote myself, but if anyone fancies following me on Instagram ( Focused_Veteran ) it would be much appreciated, all i post is bikes, fitness and Firefighting stuff.

All the best
Dave
Get after it Dave! good luck this weekend
 

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Race report and roundup from rounds 12-14 at Cadwell Park (home of the mountain)

Well another race weekend is over with and what an absolute blast it was.

The weather is blisteringly hot for the UK, 30c, not a cloud in the sky, arrived at the circuit on the Thursday night ready for the test day on Friday, before the races began on Saturday and Sunday, we got to setting our little area up and started to prep for the following day.
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Test day went well, I've only been to Cadwell once before, not long after getting the R1, so i needed as much time on both the R1 and the Suzuki Bandit to get up to speed, sadly my goal of getting some air over the mountain on the Bandit didn't happen, i knew i could do i on the R1 but alas, the old girl is just too slow and heavy with me on it.

But here's a pic from the first visit on the R1
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On to the Saturday and the our first races, so for me, i'm racing in two Classes, the first being the Newcomers Open Championship, on the R1, and secondly, the Suzuki Bandit Challenge Championship, which it's is broken down into Rookies, seniors and overall.

the racing within this class is extremely competitive, with little to no changes allowed on the bike, minus brake lines, gearing, rear shock, and a cap of 76hp.

our races also feature other classes, JSS and F400s, so it's a packed grid with about 40 bikes

Race 1 got under way and i found myself making my way through the pack, carrying more corner speed than the 400s but losing out down the straights, crossing the line i finished 10th overall and 2nd in Rookies:giggle:, a great result for me having only ridden the bike for one race beforehand.

From there it was a short wait before the Newcomers Open Race on the R1, currently I'm 6th in the Championship, tailing my friend Rhydian on his R6, he's a talented rider, and if I'm honest, just faster than me currently.

I Started the Race in 4th and finished 6th, not the best result, not the worst result, I'll take that :)


Here's the Race, i knew my mate would come past me, so tried to give him some space and stayed right until he did.


On to day 2, no races on the R1, just two races on the bandit.

Race 2 saw me start from 18th and make my way up to 11th overall and again, 2nd in class for Rookies, trying my hardest to keep up with my good friend Drew who's currently leading the Championship, i was getting faster, but just not fast enough to catch him.

Here's that video

Race 3, the final race of the weekend, this time, i was starting right behind my mate Drew, we got underway and had what for me, was the most fun I've had on a bike, we ending up rubbing leathers and bikes, me going up the inside of him into the hairpin, only for him to return the favour into turn 2 with a gentle love tap, it was utterly awesome, and sadly for me, lit the fuse for him, resulting in us both setting our fastest laps of the weekend, shaving seconds off.

I finished 8th overall and 2nd in class, a really positive start to my Bandit racing.

Here's that Race

I also Won Rookie of the weekend and got my first trophy:giggle:
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And that's my round up, a brilliant time with awesome people doing what i love.

No time to rest though, I'm racing again this weekend, this time with a different club (Bemsee) along with one of my best mates, it's his first time racing, both of us on R1s, on a track we've never ridden, Brands Hatch GP, we've got half a day of testing, then straight into qualifying Saturday morning, it's going to be great.

Cheers for reading guys, btw, i'm not one to promote myself, but if anyone fancies following me on Instagram ( Focused_Veteran ) it would be much appreciated, all i post is bikes, fitness and Firefighting stuff.

All the best
Dave
Thanks for the report, Dave! Sounds like an absolute blast. Good luck this weekend!
 

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Do it gear! I'd certainly be interested in how the racing is on the other side of the pond!

Bike is all loaded into the van and ready to go!, weather forecast looks good, hot but good, 28c Saturday and Sunday.

Was having a little tinker with the clip ons, I have no idea if they are in the right position either in general or specifically for me, I've tried bringing them in a tad, but will try small adjustments tomorrow to see if can improve things.
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Do it gear! I'd certainly be interested in how the racing is on the other side of the pond!

Bike is all loaded into the van and ready to go!, weather forecast looks good, hot but good, 28c Saturday and Sunday.

Was having a little tinker with the clip ons, I have no idea if they are in the right position either in general or specifically for me, I've tried bringing them in a tad, but will try small adjustments tomorrow to see if can improve things.
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Watch Dave Moss on setting clip-ons. He’s got a pretty solid starting point that you can adjust off of
 

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wrong video, let me find the right one

he’s got it as a pay video now. Basically it’s getting into tucked position, full race down a straight position, and resting your fingers on the levers. The middle finger has the power and the index finger is for release (finesse). Make sure your arms are the same length by standing against a wall, sticking your arms straight out, keeping your shoulders on the wall, and see if one arm is longer than the other. Many people set the clips ons the same and struggle cause one arm is longer or whatever.

this video is on a street bike but still has some of the principles.
 

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Race Report from Brands Hatch :cool:

Well, we are back home after our first race meeting with BMRC (British Motorcycle Racing Club) or Bemsee as they are more commonly known.

The BMRC is the oldest Motorcycle club in the world, the whole club is steeped in history dating back to 1909, it's had many champions who started racing there first, Casey Stoner, Cal Crutchlow, James Toseland to name just a few.

So it was pretty exciting for me and my team mate Scott to take part in our first race weekend within such a club, but, along with that excitement, was a whole bag of nerves, we've been fortunate enough before starting racing to pretty much do trackdays at every circuit in the UK, well, almost every circuit, Brands Hatch being one of the Tracks we'd missed, and now we found ourselves setting up for weekend of racing on tarmac we've never seen, made worse by the fact that we'd only get 3 sessions on the Indy circuit on the Friday, before heading straight into qualifying on the GP layout on Saturday, an extra 1.3 miles of unridden track...

I do what i imagine most of us do before a trackday or racing, i go to YouTube and look at onboards, and, if I'm feeling fancy, I'll pop Ride 4 on and try a few laps, we all know that while this will help us understand the general layout and corners, what it doesn't show is the elevation changes, and Brands Hatch is like a bloody rollercoaster!

we decided it would be a good idea to get a track walk in on Friday afternoon, at least then we could see what we were up against, turns out, quite a lot.
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Pictures can't do it justice, truthfully it can't, turn 1 known as Paddock Hill Bend is uphill Braking into a huge downhill right turn where the compression as the bottom feels like the bike is going snap in two, that's followed by a charge up Hailwoods Hill into an "Brake as late as you dare right, Druids, before heading down Graham Hill into turn 3 which is Graham Hill bend... all this within less than a mile, and it only gets crazier after this, there is absolutely no where to rest, it's a balls to the wall race over what feels like a mountain range.

Saturday started bright and early, we've been experiencing a bit of a heatwave here in the UK, temps up to 40C which isn't normal, but thankfully some Tours in Iraq and Afghan have me used to operating in such heat, Scott isn't so lucky, and proceeded to "Slow cook" over the weekend, we made sure to take on loads of water, and watch as the countdown to our timed qualifying session is out..

Before we know it we are back in, exhausted, but we absolutely loved the full GP layout, it's crazy, extremely demanding, but a whole load of fun, and while we qualify poorly, I'm more than happy to write off the results seeing as it was our first go at a track we'd not been on and i knew there was still a whole load of places we'd could go much faster through, we just need more time on track.
My Fastest lap being a 1.42.6

I qualified 29th
Scott 31st.

Race 1
Red lights..GO!
a good start from me, i manage to get to the inside line and make up a few places, my pace through the first part of the circuit is ok, not rapid, but ok, but i'm losing loads of time and places over the course of the rest, i settle into forgetting about places and try using the rest of the race to just learn the track better.
the Chequered flags waves and i finish 16th, Scott comes in 21st, both of us are extremely pleased, my best lap is a 1.42 dead, knocking over 2 seconds off my qualifying time.

Here's Race 1


Race 2
Our fastest lap in the previous race give us our starting positions for the following race, I'm 16th, Scott is 17th..
Red lights...GO!
Another good start for me sees me pass a few people into turn 1 again, i struggle to get past people later on in the race, just not having the pace to make a move, and while i know i'm faster than the person in front, i get stuck behind, Scott finds some space a clear track, gaining on us every lap, i'm battling with a guy when he comes on the outside of me into the second to last corner, unfortunately leaving himself no where to go, he catches my leg with his bike and tumbles off into the gravel (seen at 8.27 on Race 2 video).
We crossed the line, me finishing 13th, Scott close behind in 15th, he's also gone faster than me, so he'll be starting in front of me for Race 3.
My fastest lap is a 1.42.2

Here's Race 2 filmed from Scotts bike, i'm the white and blue R1 to the left of him on the grid.


Race 3
I'm starting 16th, Scott is in 12th, i'm starting to have issues on the warm up lap with some small clutch slip, but decide to crack on.
Red Lights...GO!
A decent start, i manage to get past Scott early on, but he's faster than me, and comes passed on lap 2 into druids, i smile in my lid, I'm extremely competitive, i want to always do the best i can, but i was happy to see him come past, i try holding onto him, but i'm just not at his pace yet.
Scott has a great result with a top ten, finishing 9th, i cross the line in 11th.
best lap for scott is a 1.37.8, i manage a 1.39.

Here's that Race recorded from my bike

Race 4, the final race.
Red Lights...GO!
good start, i manage to get the inside line into turn 1, braking into turn 2 i can feel something happening with the front, a strong click noise and i feel it through the bars, at first i think it's the pads in the calipers, but i've been having issues with the bike not really holding a line, or not being able to tighten a line, it turns out the headstock bearings have some play, and are letting out, push on though and try to manage it, Scott comes past and it's a repeat of race 3, i try holding on but can't, we cross the line.
I finish 9th, Scott comes home in 7th, and awesome result and we are both happy.

Here's the final Race

And that was our weekend, it was awesome, decent results, great weather, and great memoires.

the bike is now home in the garage, stripped, forks are off for a service, I'm debating if i should get a different rear shock, still using totally stock suspension currently, I've got a new clutch to go in, new brake lines to fit, bike needs a service etc and a deep clean before we head out again in September for the next round at Donington Park.

any insight into suspension guys would be awesome.

Thanks for reading.
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Race Report from Brands Hatch :cool:

Well, we are back home after our first race meeting with BMRC (British Motorcycle Racing Club) or Bemsee as they are more commonly known.

The BMRC is the oldest Motorcycle club in the world, the whole club is steeped in history dating back to 1909, it's had many champions who started racing there first, Casey Stoner, Cal Crutchlow, James Toseland to name just a few.

So it was pretty exciting for me and my team mate Scott to take part in our first race weekend within such a club, but, along with that excitement, was a whole bag of nerves, we've been fortunate enough before starting racing to pretty much do trackdays at every circuit in the UK, well, almost every circuit, Brands Hatch being one of the Tracks we'd missed, and now we found ourselves setting up for weekend of racing on tarmac we've never seen, made worse by the fact that we'd only get 3 sessions on the Indy circuit on the Friday, before heading straight into qualifying on the GP layout on Saturday, an extra 1.3 miles of unridden track...

I do what i imagine most of us do before a trackday or racing, i go to YouTube and look at onboards, and, if I'm feeling fancy, I'll pop Ride 4 on and try a few laps, we all know that while this will help us understand the general layout and corners, what it doesn't show is the elevation changes, and Brands Hatch is like a bloody rollercoaster!

we decided it would be a good idea to get a track walk in on Friday afternoon, at least then we could see what we were up against, turns out, quite a lot.
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Pictures can't do it justice, truthfully it can't, turn 1 known as Paddock Hill Bend is uphill Braking into a huge downhill right turn where the compression as the bottom feels like the bike is going snap in two, that's followed by a charge up Hailwoods Hill into an "Brake as late as you dare right, Druids, before heading down Graham Hill into turn 3 which is Graham Hill bend... all this within less than a mile, and it only gets crazier after this, there is absolutely no where to rest, it's a balls to the wall race over what feels like a mountain range.

Saturday started bright and early, we've been experiencing a bit of a heatwave here in the UK, temps up to 40C which isn't normal, but thankfully some Tours in Iraq and Afghan have me used to operating in such heat, Scott isn't so lucky, and proceeded to "Slow cook" over the weekend, we made sure to take on loads of water, and watch as the countdown to our timed qualifying session is out..

Before we know it we are back in, exhausted, but we absolutely loved the full GP layout, it's crazy, extremely demanding, but a whole load of fun, and while we qualify poorly, I'm more than happy to write off the results seeing as it was our first go at a track we'd not been on and i knew there was still a whole load of places we'd could go much faster through, we just need more time on track.
My Fastest lap being a 1.42.6

I qualified 29th
Scott 31st.

Race 1
Red lights..GO!
a good start from me, i manage to get to the inside line and make up a few places, my pace through the first part of the circuit is ok, not rapid, but ok, but i'm losing loads of time and places over the course of the rest, i settle into forgetting about places and try using the rest of the race to just learn the track better.
the Chequered flags waves and i finish 16th, Scott comes in 21st, both of us are extremely pleased, my best lap is a 1.42 dead, knocking over 2 seconds off my qualifying time.

Here's Race 1


Race 2
Our fastest lap in the previous race give us our starting positions for the following race, I'm 16th, Scott is 17th..
Red lights...GO!
Another good start for me sees me pass a few people into turn 1 again, i struggle to get past people later on in the race, just not having the pace to make a move, and while i know i'm faster than the person in front, i get stuck behind, Scott finds some space a clear track, gaining on us every lap, i'm battling with a guy when he comes on the outside of me into the second to last corner, unfortunately leaving himself no where to go, he catches my leg with his bike and tumbles off into the gravel (seen at 8.27 on Race 2 video).
We crossed the line, me finishing 13th, Scott close behind in 15th, he's also gone faster than me, so he'll be starting in front of me for Race 3.
My fastest lap is a 1.42.2

Here's Race 2 filmed from Scotts bike, i'm the white and blue R1 to the left of him on the grid.


Race 3
I'm starting 16th, Scott is in 12th, i'm starting to have issues on the warm up lap with some small clutch slip, but decide to crack on.
Red Lights...GO!
A decent start, i manage to get past Scott early on, but he's faster than me, and comes passed on lap 2 into druids, i smile in my lid, I'm extremely competitive, i want to always do the best i can, but i was happy to see him come past, i try holding onto him, but i'm just not at his pace yet.
Scott has a great result with a top ten, finishing 9th, i cross the line in 11th.
best lap for scott is a 1.37.8, i manage a 1.39.

Here's that Race recorded from my bike

Race 4, the final race.
Red Lights...GO!
good start, i manage to get the inside line into turn 1, braking into turn 2 i can feel something happening with the front, a strong click noise and i feel it through the bars, at first i think it's the pads in the calipers, but i've been having issues with the bike not really holding a line, or not being able to tighten a line, it turns out the headstock bearings have some play, and are letting out, push on though and try to manage it, Scott comes past and it's a repeat of race 3, i try holding on but can't, we cross the line.
I finish 9th, Scott comes home in 7th, and awesome result and we are both happy.

Here's the final Race

And that was our weekend, it was awesome, decent results, great weather, and great memoires.

the bike is now home in the garage, stripped, forks are off for a service, I'm debating if i should get a different rear shock, still using totally stock suspension currently, I've got a new clutch to go in, new brake lines to fit, bike needs a service etc and a deep clean before we head out again in September for the next round at Donington Park.

any insight into suspension guys would be awesome.

Thanks for reading.
Dave
Love it Dave, thanks for the videos and recap. Great riding, and you’ll have something for Scott no worries.

I can’t stress enough for you to do the suspension. Get proper inserts in the front and a rear shock. The bike likes to be a little more stiff and a little taller, especially in the rear. If you can spare it, have the suspension done and it’ll give you that edge grip along with the feel to push it in and out of the corners. The stock stuff is good, but the upgraded stuff just gives the bike a bit more edge. The rear height will give it a little better corner exit, as long as it’s sprung correctly.

I was having an issue with what we call in the states as “plowing” the front on corner exit. It felt like I couldn’t get the bike to complete a corner the way I wanted. Kind of like riding in a plow behind a tractor vs piloting a knife. Adjusted the geometry, little stiffer springs, and the bike forced me to increase corner speed or I was going to ride to the inside of a corner it was trying to turn so much. Such an easier manage to corner and push the front.

awesome stuff, love it!!
 

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Cheers for that Gear! Much appreciated, currently the front forks are getting serviced.
I've contemplated upgrading the suspension for quite some time, may have just sourced an Ohlins TTXGP shock, hopefully picking it up Sunday.
 
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