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my younger brother just picked up his 04 red ri this morning in ohio from park cyckles in ohio 'which was the only one that they recieved'. i took it for a ride and this thing has no bottom end torque. i was thinking that a one down counter shaft sprocket and one tooth up in the rear would really bring this thing to life,what do u guys think? my o1 gixxer would pull the frontend with no efort. dont get me wrong this is a beautiful bike and with the sprocket change it will b an animal!!!! great job with the fi. the throttle response is exellent.
 

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it's basically superbike gearing as stock. super tall 1st like the RC51 was off the floor.

for noise, emissions and to keep folks from killing themselves, they gear super high.

i'd start with one sprocket first, then the next if it's not low enough.
 

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'01 Gixxer 1000 to '04 R1
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break in has nothing to do with how th gearing is set up. everyone likes their gearing a sertain way. dumbass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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If you ride at the track (and I'm guessing you don't), you'll like the gearing the way it is. With bikes that have more "normal" gearing, 1st gear is essentially useless, even dangerous, on a racetrack, so I'm glad for the tall gearing.
 

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ExHondaGuy said:
If you ride at the track (and I'm guessing you don't), you'll like the gearing the way it is. With bikes that have more "normal" gearing, 1st gear is essentially useless, even dangerous, on a racetrack, so I'm glad for the tall gearing.
This is exactly why it is so hard for me to ride my RS 250 on the street.. With the Cup replica model, Aprilia geared them for the track.. It feels like you have to ride the clutch up to 25 mph to keep from stalling the engine....
 

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you have to burn clutch on an RS250 because they're a 2stroke 250. no torque to get all that mass moving. gearing lower will help only marginally. i raced RS250s for two years so i know a bit about those bikes. :beer
 

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I agree with the you about the gearing being to high. I don't ride the track, and will probally be dropping a tooth in the front. I also feel that there is no torque in the low rpm range but it comes alive once you get up in the 8-9k rpm range. I am sure that 1 tooth down will take care of this. :thumbup
 

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yeah, its definately a little slower out of the gate and the roll ons are slower. The real downfall is speeds below 30 mph and that you actually have to shift some now. But, this is the 3rd R1 I've had and definately the best in terms of speed. Once moving nothing can touch it.
 

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Hi All!
I'm new to the forum. My bike is supposed to be in in the next week or so. My question is, I am used to my Gixxer 1k that I dropped 1 tooth in the front, and went two larger on the rear...I know this is speculation, but do you think the my new R1 is going to feel sluggish in comparison? Sorry if off topic...
Jim
 

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Mazzella04R1 said:
break in has nothing to do with how th gearing is set up. everyone likes their gearing a sertain way. dumbass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oops, didn't read the second half of the post about the gearing. Go back to gizzer.com :finger
 

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fastdiablo said:
you have to burn clutch on an RS250 because they're a 2stroke 250. no torque to get all that mass moving. gearing lower will help only marginally. i raced RS250s for two years so i know a bit about those bikes. :beer
I agree two strokes have less at the bottom and a narrow powerband.. But the RS250 can be geared down for the street..Just as MX bikes and shifter karts can be geared for very easy launching from a stand still..
 

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well this is all not true did you see the video from forum member r1lover,
its on this forum.. he does a rolling burn out a couple of times ..there
is torque to be had at the right rpm in 1st gear
 

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:no Why does my front end look at the sky in every gear with stock gearing? Oh Im sorry I was turning the throttle. Please all of you drop one on the front that have a problem with torque so I can blow by you before Im out of first gear Geez:yesnod
 

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'01 Gixxer 1000 to '04 R1
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ImagineParadise said:
oops, didn't read the second half of the post about the gearing. Go back to gizzer.com :finger
only steers and queers come from texas...and i'm guessing you don't have any horns!:lol


I've had 3 gixxer 1000's it is an awesome bike. i've also had a 2000 r1. I like all sport bikes. i'm going with the r1 this year because of the looks. anyone of my gixxer 1000's would smoke your r1 or any other bike your on for that matter.

01 Gixxer 1000:
-full HMF titanium
-power commander 3r
-yosh cams
-yosh vavle springs
-TRE sensor
-K&N
-chrome windscreen
-renthals
-protek rearsets
-ect....

will attached pictures as soon as i get software for digital camera
 

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:no Why does my front end look at the sky in every gear with stock gearing? Oh Im sorry I was turning the throttle. Please all of you drop one on the front that have a problem with torque so I can blow by you before Im out of first gear Geez:yesnod
i'm dropping one down in the front so i can blow by you on one wheel.:lol
 

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Well as I have stated all along, the new R1 is weaker down low because of the new short stroke design and its rediculously tall gearing. Sure it works really well for track use where 98% of the time your screaming between 11,000k and redline but for street use and general backroad burning it is going to need at least a tooth dropped off the front sprocket, that would help some. I imagine Yamaha figured it would be best to sell a 150+hp bike to the general public with neutered power down low and gearing for the autobahn, that way it would be less intimidating for a newer rider yet still be a serious threat up top for the experienced rider. I just wonder how Kawasaki managed to kkep its bore marginally smaller with a tiny bit more stroke and still beat Yammies 04 R1 in both tourque down low and out do it on top with better peak HP #'s. Makes me wonder what its like also moving with the ram-air assist. I bet the Kawizx10 is one helluva bike to ride, but since it is undergoing a tranny fix, well just have to wait and see what people say about it when it hits the streets. I have a 99 R1 and it has 2 teeth up on the rear sprocket, it has boatloads of grunt down low and in the middle and has repeatedly walked the dog on the 04 r1 in roll-ons and only loses ground up high in the rev range (basically anything above 150mph. The new Kwak zx10 is starting to look awefully tempting.
 

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...has repeatedly walked the dog on the 04 r1 in roll-ons and only loses ground up high in the rev range (basically anything above 150mph...
and when you turn.... and when you stop... and when you know how to shift.

And what makes you so sure the Kawi makes more HP and torque? Euro-dyno numbers that have been shown here (and were, unlike the f-d up Sport Rider numbers, taken on the same dyno on the same day) show the opposite. It's pretty much a tie regardless.
 
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