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· T-Raven
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I haven't been on here much in a few yrs. I was without a bike for a while but I've had this 05 for about a year



I haven't liked this bike as much as I liked the 98 in my avatar, so recently I've been looking for another w/r 98. I have some old threads about my old 98 getting wrecked. I was trying to sell it because I got tired of the payment. Had I known then about the job I'd have 6 months later I woulda kept it and had it paid off in no time. But anyway, I was dumb enough to let a kid test ride it and he wrecked it.

Here it was before




And after the wreck



The insurance gave me most of what I was asking and I still had the bike, so I spent a few hundred making it ridable again, but ended up selling it a couple months later. Here's how it looked when I sold it



I've always wondered what happened to it and had heard the guy I sold it to sold it to another guy that wrecked it and died on it.

Well I've been keeping an eye on cl for a white and red 98 and Sunday saw an ad for a 98 project bike 30 miles from here with the same Akrapovic exhaust and Corbin seat mine had. Asked the guy some questions about the frame where I had welded it back together and sure enough it was my old bike! So I bought that baby back Monday.



I sold it for $2000 in 05 and bought it back for $1500. The kid who had it worked at a Yamaha dealer and had recently replaced quite a few things. Most is genuine Yamaha stuff. He bought some aftermarket fairings for it, they seem pretty good quality and are definitely better than all the original ones I had fiber glassed back together lol. It's got new tires, he threw in a nice jacket and gloves and 2 helmets. So I think I scored a pretty decent deal on it. It's like I was paid $500 and a bunch of new parts to let people rent it for the last 6 years lol.

Here it is sittin in the shop where I work



And the new fairings. He got them from Bliss-Star on ebay. I'll post more detail about the quality and fit when I get to that point.



I'm going to paint it white and red like it was originally. I want to see what I can do to the areas of the frame that were damaged. I welded the seat frame back on back in the day and it was straight and strong, but the welds aren't the prettiest. And it'll probably get a few aftermarket parts.

Anybody know where I can get a new Akrapovic muffler? The pipes are good still but there are dents in the muffler. I guess that system was discontinued.
 

· T-Raven
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put on all the fairings the other day. fit is ok but they'll need some work.
Had to clean up the bolt holes



The lower and mid fairings have a bit of a gap at the back that'll need some attention




The curvature around this cover seems too tight so I'll probably trim this a little



I couldn't get these holes to line up



I think that is being caused by the left lower fairing hitting the exhaust. I'll fit all the fairings with the exhaust off and if that's the problem I'll have to trim it to clear the exhaust



Started taking it apart the other day to inspect and repair everything



I was going to try to get all the dents out of the tank but after looking at it closer the inner part is kinda deformed to where it hits the right side of the frame and I'm not sure I can get it back into shape so I'm looking for a good tank. Might be hard to see but here's a pic



My exhaust is a little banged up. The pipes I can get the dents out of easy enough



I'm gonna try to straighten out the muffler but we'll see what I figure out. I did find a guy on ebay selling repair kits, basically new packing, a muffler shell and rivets. I don't know if it's official Akrapovic stuff or a knock off though



Here's how it's sittin at the moment. I couldn't get my forks parallel for the life of me so I'm gessing my lower tree is twisted so I'm looking for a new one



Some of the frame damage I want to repair. The seat frame broke off when the kid wrecked it and I welded it back on but I only had a mig welder at the time. I have a tig now, just need to bone up on my aluminum welding skills. The lower tube in the pic is nice and wavy so I want to replace that, maybe just make a whole new seat frame

 

· T-Raven
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nice.i love the r/w r1s, Ireally wanted a r/w one, but couldnt find one anywhere so i got the blue instead, which i love now.

good luck on the build!

Yeah they are getting way hard to find. I use searchtempest.com to search craigslist. There were three r/w ones a week ago. 2 in OR and one somewhere back east. I'm still keeping an eye out for a good deal on one. If I picked one up I'd paint this 98 a different color.
 

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Stokesdope, keep us updated on your rebuild. My brother wrecked my '99 r/b/w and I'm considering rebuilding it, so I'm really interested in following your progress. Thanks . . . and good luck!

Sure will man, how much damage was done to yours? It's amazing how much parts have gone up for the older ones. A frame was like $1050 from mrcycles in 05 and now they want $2500. So for that kind of money mine is definitely getting repaired rather than replaced lol. I looked at buying all new fairings and a tank from them as well to have factory parts with factory paint. It's like $3000 for all of it, it's outragious. Even the hardware is insane, just one 1/4 turn fasterner is $6, 10 of them with clips is close to $100.

Anyway after pricing all this stuff I guess the only way it's worth rebuilding these is if get used parts and either used or after market fairings. The aftermarket stuff takes some tweeking though to make them look and fit good.
 

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I know EXACTLY what you mean...running into the same parts/pricing problems as you. My brother grabbed a handful of brake in a turn and basically flipped end over end. Bike was absolutely spotless before. Now, frame damaged, all plastic pieces on right side scuffed, brake lever, custom rear set, MIG exhaust canister, right handlebar are all damaged. Probably $4k to fully repair. There's a shop 50 miles from my house (G.M.D.?? in Jasper, GA) that specializes in repairing bike frames -- for $1200 they'll measure with laser and guarantee frame will be put back to spec (BETTER than new they say).

Also considering parting the bike out and using the money to offset the price of a newer bike (maybe a '07). Think I'll miss having/tweaking carbs and probably will run up a bill trying to get a newer bike to pull like my 1999. My brother has offered me $4k either way.

If you (or anyone else) have any opinion about which way I should go, please let me know. I just can't seem to decide...

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Ordered a used lower tree off ebay so I'm waiting on that. Decided to fit my fairings with everything out of the way to see how well they themselves fit without anyting in the way. My fairing stay was sitting crooked



After a lot of looking and I finally decided it's the lugs on the frame that are tweeked and the stay is straight. You can kinda see in this pic that the lower one looks bent toward the right side of the pic. They both look like they are more to that side looking down at them



I filed some material off the lugs to give a straighter surface and it helped but wasn't perfect so I took a couple mallets to the fairing stay and tweeked it until it looked straight with the frame. The kid I got the bike back from said the last guy had wood screws holding the old fairings on. Looks like he just screwed them to the head lights




Those holes aren't a big deal but I'll probably sand them down and use something to fill the holes.

So with the upper fairing finally straight it looks a little more like it should



Once I get the new lower tree I'll put it back on it's wheels and get all the farings on so I can see where they need to be modified to fit the best.

I did work on the lower two a little bit. I didn't like how the bottom edges met up so I sanded the edges to get a better fit



These ebay fairings aren't too bad but the edges and holes need some cleaning up. I'll probably need a little body filler to get them looking good enough to paint, but over all the quality isn't too bad.

A few of the parts I ordered came in. Overflow bottle was gone. Wasn't a good one on ebay when I looked so I ordered a new one from mrcycles.com then of course one popped up on ebay right after that for 1/3 the cost lol. Got new Harris grips. I love these grips and the bike already has the same ones but they are pretty wore out. The bar ends were cheap chinese ones from ebay.



My Corbin seat has a few tears in it so I was going to recover it. I saw this one on ebay fairly cheap so I went ahead and bought it. It has more foam than mine so we'll see which one I like more. I kinda like the red piping for a white/red bike, but not sure what'll be the final seat. Maybe I'll make a custom cover for one of the Corbins.



Still looking for a good gas tank, and I need a radiator. This one holds fluid but it's pretty bent lol



And it looks like some moron put stop leak in it. I HATE stop leak. Hopefully I can get it flushed out of the engine. Still looking for a good used radiator but maybe I'll just bite the bullet and buy a new one.



Other than a new tank and radiator I don't need much other than a few small things. I do want to upgrade some things as funds allow. I would like to do what I can to make sure the engine is in top shape. I'm thinking new timing chain and plugs if they are old, clean the carbs. Not sure what else would be a good idea. Any suggestions for maintenance on the engine?
 

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Got a good lower triple off ebay for $75, it showed up yesterday



Got it set back on it's wheels



I'm gonna fit the fairings with the exhaust off and get them fitted to each other right then I'll put the exhaust back on and if it's still hitting the exhaust I'll trim it to clear. Had a heck of a time getting the frame holes to line up with the fairings all bolted together. Found this bracket bent so straightened it and that helped



I still couldn't get the frame holes to line up so I unbolted the upper fairing and put all the bolts in for the mids and lowers. They all lined up fine with the upper not attached and here's how far off the upper is





Not sure if it's the fault of the fairings or if I still have a problem with the stay not putting the upper fairing where it should be. Either way I can't move the frame holes but I can tweek the fairing stay so I'll see what I can do to make them all line up

With the fairing stay and headlight out, I was able to bolt the upper to the mids and everything looks like it lines up pretty well, though it kinda looks like the upper fairing is too low in relation to the bars but maybe not. I guess I'll see how much I can adjust the fairing stay to put the upper where it needs to be.



I mostly wanted to start this thread to give some feedback on some aftermarket fairings but unfortunately I can't say for sure yet if the alignment problems are from the fairings themselves or not. Though either way for what the kid spent on the fairings I think I woulda pieced together a set of used factory fairings. I've been seeing good enough deals on ebay, if I'm not happy with these after some more work, I think I'll keep an eye out for good pieces over the next few months and once I get a good set together and painted I'll use those and sell these aftermarket ones.
 

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If the fairings and their attachment points are good, the fitting problems could be caused by the frame being tweaked a bit in some way as a result of one/both crashes. Really hope that's not the case for you, but thought I'd mention the possibility.
 

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I see one of the best R1 models and colors out there that has been abused again and again.... Nothing can do that justice more then the original condish and scheme..... Watching to see if you can give that poor baby a life worth living again..........
 

· T-Raven
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I see one of the best R1 models and colors out there that has been abused again and again.... Nothing can do that justice more then the original condish and scheme..... Watching to see if you can give that poor baby a life worth living again..........

Yeah man the white and red 98 has always been my favorite. I want get this thing ridable again and get these fairings looking as good as I can then paint them like the originals. I might change the paint somewhat whether that be shade of red or how much is red, or I don't know what yet. I just want to give the bike some upgrades and custom touches so it still looks like the w/r 98s but noticable different to those that know what they are looking at.
 

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Looking great so far!

I totally rebuilt a hammered 2001 to be my track bike, so I've learned a couple of things along the way. While you're digging around in your bike, I highly recommend rebuilding the forks and shock and throwing a set of late model 04 wheels and brakes on it.....they probably are in desperate need of a rebuild anyway, and it totally updates the handling and braking of what's already a monster motor.

I'm sure you already know, but the R1-forum classifieds were a HUGE resource for me both when I rebuilt the bike for the first time (from trashed streeter to fast tracker) and then when I rebuilt it again last year (after a near 100mph higside!).

Good luck!
 
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