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I'm looking for all possible vin model year locations on 04-06 r1 , two vins on the frame matche title (02 year) and police said this title is clean, and clear , so they have nothing to do, I bet I will get the same answer in dmv unless I point out on the true vin number
 

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In the USA the true vin number is on the headstock (front) of the frame. It is stamped and also listed on a decal right next to it. There might be other identifying numbers elsewhere, but the stamped vin on the frame is the important one.

It is not possible for a 02 vin to be a 04-06 model, but it is possible for an 02 model to have a boat load of 04-06 parts on it. Not sure if that is what you mean?
 

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It has frame with holes for air duct pipes, yamaha started to do it in 2004 model year, I do believe somebody took 2005 bike and redid vins and got title from 2002. Vin on the frame is on a small metal plate
 

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Your frame has definitely been tampered with. I don't think your vin decal is original, and the plate is definitely not original. I am not sure where you got the motorcycle, but if you peel that plate off, the real number should be below it unless it was grinded off. It looks like the material is still there though, so the real number might be right underneath.

The question is why was this done? There are a couple of reasons I can think of that are possible and legal, but the year should not have changed on the vin plate. You can sometimes update a vehicle to a new year (especially changing the motor on cars), but you can never go backwards.

What is the history on this bike? Are you in the USA?
 

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Yes I'm in U.S. I bought in August last year like a project to work during the winter for the next season , strongly believed it was 2002, cause title matched both vins on the bike. Than I started looking for parts and found out that frame is not from 02, because air duct pipes, so I went to local police department, with documents and said please take a look on the bike, they checked title and said it is clean and clear and since it matches your vin numbers than we have nothing to do. Than I said: probably the true vin is under this plate, they said they cannot remove it and said the only dmv may help. I will finish some mechanical work this week and will check with them but I believe it will be the same unless I point out on a true vin
 

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I think the only way you are going to know for sure is to pop the plate off. The downside is that likely you will then have two mismatched vin numbers and no paper work for the 06 frame. If you plan to keep this bike forever it really doesn't matter that much, but if you ever go to resell it, you are going to have issues. I guess it is better to find out now before you drop money into it. The other option would be to source a good 04-06 chassis and just swap the parts over. Not sure what you have is worth doing that, but it could be an option.

The scary question is where is the frame with your VIN number on it? Hopefully there isn't an 02 floating around somewhere registered to someone else with the same VIN number.
 

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I think I will ask dmv folks to pop up the plate, and than check the vin under it if they suppose it's fake. Dmv guys could messed up numbers on the title but not on the bike, so I think somebody tried to combine bike w/o documents with documents w/o bike. So there is a great chance the 06 bike was stolen and than "legalized" this way by 02 vins plates and title ;( the problem is if you sell/buy in state you should not do vin inspection - that's why people keep doing this crap !
 

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There are many vin decoders in the web , as well as schemes showing there is model year info , manufacture code etc,
Could u please give a specific address ?
I've tried and also googled it but none of those VIN decoder websites helped, they gave very little details about bike.
 

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Looks like it's a write off VIN/title that's been used possibly on stolen frame/bike




You are not going to know what you have until you remove the false plate stuck on the frame, provided the original VIN is under there.

Not sure how/why you bought it though?
 

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Looks like it's a write off VIN/title that's been used possibly on stolen frame/bike




You are not going to know what you have until you remove the false plate stuck on the frame, provided the original VIN is under there.

Not sure how/why you bought it though?

Hey is that a free VIN check site??
 

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Hell even if that vin site catches 10 out of 100 vins I like it! thanks Gecko.

Also, id be interested to know the outcome of this bike.
 
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