Sport touring tires FTW :fact
Good info. Let's see where this goes. :bow
Good info. Let's see where this goes. :bow
What's the right tire for YOUR bike?
All right, this is the question that everyone usually asks and there are many different answers to it. I'm going to try and sum most of the answers into this one thread.
Tires are a HUGE mental game. I know this first hand because I used to only trust Michelins, and today I'm sponsored by Dunlop (Edit:1/1/16 Back to Michelins) Most of the time, any tire option will suit you just fine for street use (unless you try dirt tires on a street bike or something silly like that).
All major brands (Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli,...) are great players in the game, so to say you like one brand better than the other because you like the shape of their logo doesn't quite fly.
First thing you have to ask is what do you want out of a tire? A race tire would be a waste of money if you're using your bike for street only. Even if your doing half street, half track, a race tire will destroy itself very quickly depending on your pace.
A street tire may not be suitable for any riders riding from mid "I"ntermediate group or higher. Tire just wasn't made for those kind of speeds.
Most tires available from your local vendor or a motorcycle website are street tires (ex.: Dunlop Q3, Michelin Pilot Powers, etc.). Race tires are usually a little harder to come by, you need to search them specifically or go through the manufacture directly.
However most people think that when they drop the bike is because they went in "too hot" and the tire lost grip, and that is simply not the case most of the time. Even with a stock suspension a motorcycle can do a lot more in a corner with a street tire. Most of the roads I've been to, I wouldn't even push the limit of the front end of my bike in a corner simply because the corner wouldn't allow me too (I'm sure there are roads out there that you can)
So when you go asking for "what tire is the best?" Or "what tire is better for my bike" remember that a lot of it has to do with your mind. Get what you think you would be comfortable with :fact
Tires are a HUGE mental game. I know this first hand because I used to only trust Michelins, and today I'm sponsored by Dunlop (Edit:1/1/16 Back to Michelins) Most of the time, any tire option will suit you just fine for street use (unless you try dirt tires on a street bike or something silly like that).
All major brands (Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli,...) are great players in the game, so to say you like one brand better than the other because you like the shape of their logo doesn't quite fly.
First thing you have to ask is what do you want out of a tire? A race tire would be a waste of money if you're using your bike for street only. Even if your doing half street, half track, a race tire will destroy itself very quickly depending on your pace.
A street tire may not be suitable for any riders riding from mid "I"ntermediate group or higher. Tire just wasn't made for those kind of speeds.
Most tires available from your local vendor or a motorcycle website are street tires (ex.: Dunlop Q3, Michelin Pilot Powers, etc.). Race tires are usually a little harder to come by, you need to search them specifically or go through the manufacture directly.
However most people think that when they drop the bike is because they went in "too hot" and the tire lost grip, and that is simply not the case most of the time. Even with a stock suspension a motorcycle can do a lot more in a corner with a street tire. Most of the roads I've been to, I wouldn't even push the limit of the front end of my bike in a corner simply because the corner wouldn't allow me too (I'm sure there are roads out there that you can)
So when you go asking for "what tire is the best?" Or "what tire is better for my bike" remember that a lot of it has to do with your mind. Get what you think you would be comfortable with :fact
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Will sport touring tires hold on under aggressive cornering?
Theyre not made for it, same with the street tires part.Will sport touring tires hold on under aggressive cornering?
In other words yes, to a point. Everyones "aggressive" riding is different :fact
Sport Rider magazine did a comparison between slicks - DOTs - Hypersport (street tires) - and Sport Touring tires. They experienced approximately a .10 second difference from one tire to the next. I've ridden Deal's Gap with Sport Touring tires on my R1. I wasn't dragging knee, but wasn't far from it.
I think confidence has a big role in tire selection.
My good friend once said "tire technology has come a long way, they were dragging knee in the 80's."
I think there's some solid truth to that, and it has helped me with tire selection. When someone's afraid of a tires capability, I feel that it could lead them to make frequent mistakes, because they're not trusting the tire and are distracted. When you can take the human element out of the equation, a tire's ability is exponential no matter the type.
I always say go with your gut, and what you like. If you feel like a sport touring tire won't hold up well while leaned over, don't buy one. That mental barricade is going to burn you every time. If you think you'll feel more comfortable with a hypersport on the road, or a DOT vs slick on the track, preference is importance because it builds confidence.
Just my .02
My good friend once said "tire technology has come a long way, they were dragging knee in the 80's."
I think there's some solid truth to that, and it has helped me with tire selection. When someone's afraid of a tires capability, I feel that it could lead them to make frequent mistakes, because they're not trusting the tire and are distracted. When you can take the human element out of the equation, a tire's ability is exponential no matter the type.
I always say go with your gut, and what you like. If you feel like a sport touring tire won't hold up well while leaned over, don't buy one. That mental barricade is going to burn you every time. If you think you'll feel more comfortable with a hypersport on the road, or a DOT vs slick on the track, preference is importance because it builds confidence.
Just my .02
Don't forget....a lot of sport touring tires have the edges of the hyper-sport tire (dual/triple compound).....
Angle GT's for me on the street wheels (for my next set)
Pirelli supercorsa slicks on the track wheels....
Angle GT's for me on the street wheels (for my next set)
Pirelli supercorsa slicks on the track wheels....
I've given up trying to explain it. :lol Most folks hear the word "touring" and assume that they are not safe for speeds over 50. The sporting touring tires I have run have been Z rated radials and have lasted about 10k miles. The only complaint I've had about the older ones was the lack of feedback. But grip has never been an issue.Don't forget....a lot of sport touring tires have the edges of the hyper-sport tire (dual/triple compound).....
Angle GT's for me on the street wheels (for my next set)
Pirelli supercorsa slicks on the track wheels....
Mileage is always going to be a factor. I run the stickiest tires I can afford (D211 GPA's take offs currently) and care very little for mileage. If I get another track day out of this set I will be happy, and honestly I think I will get at least one more after that. Tires have definitely come a long way from the 90's, and this R1 sure can eat up rear tires.
I still can't stand Michelin though...
I still can't stand Michelin though...
So what's a good, confidence inspiring sport touring tire?
First part of getting the knee down is confidence right?
I'm partial to Dunlop. So the next tire on my FZR1000 will be the Roadsmart II.So what's a good, confidence inspiring sport touring tire?
Lol.....and I'm partial to Pirelli - hence the angel GT's.
Honestly, all the major brands are great, sticky tires. Dunlop have a stiff carcass, while Pirelli have soft carcass. But, IMHO, I don't think you'd even feel a difference on the street. I'd say to with whatever's on sale....
Honestly, all the major brands are great, sticky tires. Dunlop have a stiff carcass, while Pirelli have soft carcass. But, IMHO, I don't think you'd even feel a difference on the street. I'd say to with whatever's on sale....
tyre shape plays a big part if confidence also, weight of the tyre is another....go from a rear Rosso corsa to a sports smart, about a kg in weight difference.
all this adds up to what feels right for you
all this adds up to what feels right for you
So what's a good, confidence inspiring sport touring tire?
I'm partial to Dunlop. So the next tire on my FZR1000 will be the Roadsmart II.
Lol.....and I'm partial to Pirelli - hence the angel GT's.
Honestly, all the major brands are great, sticky tires. Dunlop have a stiff carcass, while Pirelli have soft carcass. But, IMHO, I don't think you'd even feel a difference on the street. I'd say to with whatever's on sale....
tyre shape plays a big part if confidence also, weight of the tyre is another....go from a rear Rosso corsa to a sports smart, about a kg in weight difference.
all this adds up to what feels right for you
All the responses back to the original post. All in what the rider is confortable with.
I originally asked this thread to be a sticky since this question comes around VERY often.
However i am not god and am not always right so I wanted to see if people were thinking any different, if you do have a different opinion please post it up
However i am not god and am not always right so I wanted to see if people were thinking any different, if you do have a different opinion please post it up
all points raised hopefully aids in the person asking the "what tyre" question to ask a better question...
i.e.
i want a fast turning tyre....life is important....but i do track days in the fast group....i get caught riding in the rain so wet grip matters...oh, and excellent cold grip.
that's what i want!!!
i.e.
i want a fast turning tyre....life is important....but i do track days in the fast group....i get caught riding in the rain so wet grip matters...oh, and excellent cold grip.
that's what i want!!!
Get a spare set of wheels and put the track tires on it :lolall points raised hopefully aids in the person asking the "what tyre" question to ask a better question...
i.e.
i want a fast turning tyre....life is important....but i do track days in the fast group....i get caught riding in the rain so wet grip matters...oh, and excellent cold grip.
that's what i want!!!
Question
If some one have experience of r1 in a cold weather...which tire do you suggest!
Any experience about the Michelin pilot road 3 and 4?
thanks to any one in advance for the reply
:fork
If some one have experience of r1 in a cold weather...which tire do you suggest!
Any experience about the Michelin pilot road 3 and 4?
thanks to any one in advance for the reply
:fork
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