I ran my 06 with a rebaffle kit no PC3 to help out...your 05 pops on decel by design really....its the AIS ...it will be fine. I did 20K like that ZERO problems... it is freakin loud though.....I thought the poping on decel gave the bike allot of character....

 

There are some crazy good deals on PCIII's in the for sale section right now. Find some nerdy girl to borrow books from and drop the $200 to do it right.

 

I was under the impression that the popping was caused by cool air from the ais mixing with unburnt fuel in the exhaust (ie not lean) and given the combo of the heat fresh air and fuel you get pop. smog block off plates are around 30 bucks and supposedly cure the popping.

I have the a&r baffles in my 06 along with the power commander and ais block plates and factory pro velocity stacks and no complaints or problems here.

Btw my a&r baffles and stock pipe housings are 2.5 inches shorter the sound is fantastic.:rock

 

through a year of use they will pop but I don't mind. the sound is menacing and aggressive. it's a cheap mod until you can afford slip ons

 

First you dont need a PCIII to tune it, it can be done on the bikes gauge, second to reduce the popping spend $30 on some smog block off plates.
Honestly if your willing to rebaffle then spend abit more time and do it right .

 

First you dont need a PCIII to tune it, it can be done on the bikes gauge.

I hope this doesnt sound retarted but.... What do you mean by it can be done by the bike guages. Can you tune from the bikes guages?

 

I've got the baffles and all I can notice is the louder sound. thats it, the popping has also increased but that doenst bug me.
I dont have a PC but looking to get one.

 

I have around 10,000 miles on my baffles with no PC. I did do the block off plates to reduce the popping. I haven't had any problems.

 

The popping is not that bad, and if you don't like it put the block off plates on for
$ 30.00. Other than that, the rivets they give you tend to come loose. I fixed that problem by using screws, nutplates, and loctite.
I really like the sound with the baffles, but it is a little on the loud side.

 

i actually love the popping on these.
i just made my own baffles tho so i figured if i dont like them im out lie 20 bux
i wrapped the pipes as well, and that improved the sound a little too

 

From my experiance and what I have been told... You should prolly invest in a pc even if the bike is stock. Any exhaust mod should create a "leaner" mixture, shouldnt it? To much air being pushed thru now that the pipes are opened up and not enough fuel? is that correct or not?

 

I've got the A&R baffles, bored Y pipe, and custom tune and mine still pops. I enjoy the loudness and the poping. Although, 90% of my time riding is spent with an mp3 player so exhaust noise is not a big deal.

Oh yeah, I love my exhaust!!!

 

I have a set of Race Baffles on Mine. Made my own, better than A&R in the sense of rather than having to cut out the welds you just cut the whole can 3/4" shorter put in pipe made to fit length of can once cut, cut and install factory wrapping to fit pipe and your done. Sounds amazing!

As for PCIII, unless you are gutting out Cat or replacing with Y-Pipe it is not necessary.

 

No matter what slip on you chuck on, anything that really flows (like a race can, or the A&R's) will lean out your bike. It's as simple as that, and not related to A&R's alone. To get the most out of it, you should get a PC.

But they won't ruin your bike. Lots of guys on here run just the baffles and live to tell the tale. I've got them, and I love them. Cheap way to get some nice sound and a bit more flow.

 

dude put the baffles on, there is no real issue of them affecting all the things you stated, they are worth the bang for your buck until you can afford slip ons or a complete system, im totally satisfied with mine, they are loud and pop but im like most of the guys here i like that chit. but like txbitt said use screws and nut plates to secure the end caps because the rivets will vibrate loose

 

well I just got off the phone with a guy from A and R and he told me that since I gutted my cat I am going to run to lean so sadly I think that I am going to go ahead and send my baffles back
thanks for all of the replies
king

 

Its your bike but IMHO it will be fine. I've got an 06 with them, gutted cat and block-offs and it runs great. Bikes are sent out from the factory running rich, its safer. So leaning them out a little is not a big deal. With that said, if you want it dead nuts you've gotta get the PC, but I don't have one or plan on buying one unless I go to a full exhaust or change the stacks.

 

cant help you with your problem, but I would suggest a new screen name or be prepared to have every Nigerian emailing you with your long lost relatives millions that you are entitled too, but its locked up in thier bank, just send them $1000 and they will give you a million...trust them, they really care about you