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Hi I was browsing trough the internet and checked out bazzaz traction control. I would like to ask a question. I was watching there videos on You tube and heard that it does not have sensors on the rear wheel if you're using it on the road and there is a slippery tarmac etc.. how does it not that the rear wheel is spinning?

thank you in advance
 
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I don't think Bazzaz is street legal, because it cuts the spark completely, which causes unburned fuel to enter the exhaust and atmosphere. I'm sure some Bazzaz guys can verify that. Bazzaz works be monitoring engine rpm. A sudden increase in rpm = wheel spin = cut spark = less power to the wheel. From what I've read it's a pretty good system considering there are no sensors directly monitoring each wheel.
 
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Traction Conrol

Thanks for a reply i heard in a video of there's that they will implement it for street bikes. I was interested in this system because you will be safer on the roads and i'm maltese here the tarmac is not so good. Do you think that a system like this without sensors could be better then a system which has sensors in it. I think that with a sensor it is more accurate.


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Adrian
 
#4 ·
A Bazzaz isn't street legal (just like a power commander) because it modifies fuel delivery, not because of the traction control.

A system with wheel speed sensors definitely has the capacity to be better, but don't hold your breath on someone releasing one. Bazzaz is about your only option at this point.
 
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Traction Conrol

Hi 10x for your reply i have not bought the R1 yet i have a hornet for now thinking of buying one next year hope the the R1 2010 or R1 2011 will have traction control and maybe ABS also we have to wait and see
 
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anything that alters the intake,exhaust, fueling is illegal in most states. The bazzaz uses the rpm/speedo and can tell when spikes occur, etc and then it works. With the bazzaz though it's still very hard to set up if you're going to use it as it's intended (road racing) as you need to be riding on the limit/edge to really set it up. If you're just going to use it as a failsafe when street riding then you can leave it on the default settings, but it's a bit spendy to be using as a failsale for throttle control.
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
What brand of a traction control you have on your bike?

If you consider 1000dollars for a bazzaz system and see how much a crash cost you just a fall not hitting any thing etc i think that buying a tractioc control is worth it.


Yesterday i went to yamaha dealer in Malta and was discussing the traction control with him him he said that the new r1 has a batter power delivery it gives you the power more smooth and it is easier to ride. Is this true?

As i written in this thread i will hopefully will be buying the R1 in the beginning of 2011
 
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Contact this seller on ebay italy he have a traction control whit sensors ...

http://myworld.ebay.it/motoandauto/

the link:

http://cgi.ebay.it/Controllo-di-Tra...ZViewItemQQptZRicambi_e_Accessori_Moto?hash=item3ca3c8c517&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCH1hRK-zj4

Remember bazzaz is a name find a friend in Europe like i do and start a research ,italians have a lot of parts that USA not have .....i have italian master brake 19x18 and nobody here in Puerto Rico have one ,the magazines that sells in USA not have the info that we always want to search....any question read the italians jajajajaaaaja google have a good translator
 
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This is a great system mate. In the video it worked perfectly. Thank you a lot in the video you see that it will save the rider his ass if he keep on pushing the bike to the limit. The problem is not when you want the bike to slide the problem is that while driving normal during the day or in wet conditions here in Malta the grip is hopeless i run Pilot power on my bike i find it very good but sometimes it still slides when there is paint on the road etc..
 
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hey guys, take attention.

The video is mine and the TC used IS NOT the Gubellini, but is the "Power Slide Control" made by an italian engineer. The Gubellini setup cannot be changed "on the fly" and you must stop the bike, open the rear seat and make changes.

The power slide control instead have a "control center" on the handlebar, and you can increase/decrease the sensibilty on the fly

Power Slide Control is sold in italy for 600 euros, Gubellini TC costs exactly twice

If you need more info, let me know, I can help you :)
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
Do you have a website of the power slide control. The sensibility you can adjust it on the fly but what does it actually adjust. Do you set it while you're riding say for example that the tarmac today it not good because of the weather and you make it more sensible? Thank you all for the help on the thread
 
#17 ·
The website is in developing ;)

when you adjust the sensibility, you can set (togheder) the "cut" and the "slip" setting

with a high setting of "cut", you can feel good the engine with fuel cutting, so you can set a "sweet" setting or "hard"

the "slip" is the speed difference in percent ( % ) between front and back wheel

with high setting of slip, the system cut power with a minimum difference of speed, low setting, the system allows the rear wheel to slip a minimum

the slip/cut settings can not be changed separately...when you click for a "step up" in sensibility, you give a step both on slip and cut

the power slide control has also an "anti wheelie" system (there is a on/ff switch)...you can start in first gear with full throttle and the front wheel remains glued to the aslphalt, very good for race start ;)
 
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David125 said:
hey guys, take attention.

The video is mine and the TC used IS NOT the Gubellini, but is the "Power Slide Control" made by an italian engineer. The Gubellini setup cannot be changed "on the fly" and you must stop the bike, open the rear seat and make changes.

The power slide control instead have a "control center" on the handlebar, and you can increase/decrease the sensibilty on the fly

Power Slide Control is sold in italy for 600 euros, Gubellini TC costs exactly twice

If you need more info, let me know, I can help you :)
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ciao David sei italiano?
by the way here you can find some info on how it works :
http://www.motopower.org/forum/download.php?id=11842&sid=c06a9ff11e1b963ec9218537ea0b1b30
 
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