Hi guys,
I am currently in the process of converting some Chinese ebay front wave rotors - yes, I said it, rotors from China - from semi-free floating to fully-free floating, by using the Corse Dynamics aluminum buttons here:
http://motowheels.com/i-7579497-corse-dynamics-full-floating-rotor-button.html
The goal of this project is to reduce un-sprung/rotational mass from the front wheel of the bike, without breaking the bank. My plan originally was to install the Braketech Axis/CMC rotors, but sadly they are currently unavailable with no real ETA as far as production goes. So I thought this would be a fun project and maybe save a bit of rotating mass.
I'll upload a few photos and try to cover the high points. Once I get my bike back together, I'll comment on how everything performs on the street.
Okay then...
I purchased the rotors via ebay (from ebay user: neverland-usa) for $176 including shipping from China. The rotors arrived very nicely packaged in less than a week via DHL. Here's the seller's facebook page, for anyone who is interested.
http://www.facebook.com/Neverland.fairing
(the following weights are all +/- 10 grams, as measured by me using a little hanging digital gram scale)
Weight of the OEM Yamaha front rotors is: 1400 grams each.
Weight of the Ebay wave rotors is: 1240 grams each.
So far, that's a savings of 160 grams per rotor or 320 grams (.705 lbs) total.
To reduce weight further, I selected two other areas: the buttons that fix the disc to the carrier and also the bolts which attach the rotors to the front rim. Let's look at the buttons first.
Weight of Ebay rotor's steel rotor buttons: 12.2 grams each
Weight of Corse Dynamics aluminum buttons: 4 grams each (according to website)
Now, I don't have the Corse Dynamics buttons here just yet (they are on order), but according to the photo on the website, they are 4 grams each. I don't know if that's 4.0 grams or 4.9 grams or what, but for now, let's go with 4.2 grams (to make the math more simple). Once they arrive, I'll update this posting.
So that's a weight savings of 8 grams per button - times 10 buttons per rotor. So that's 80 grams per rotor or 160 grams total - not to mention having rotors that should be fully free floating (thus less drag from the pads).
So far, our total weight savings is 320 grams plus 160 grams, which is 480 grams. That's 1.05 lbs total off the front wheel! Not too bad.
Now let's look at the front rotor bolts...
When I removed my rotors, I weighed the 5 fixing bolts and found them to weigh in at 39.6 grams total. Probolt-usa.com offers Titanium hardware (currently on order) and they state the weight of their Titanium front brake rotor bolts at 43.31 grams (for all 10 bolts). This is a weight savings of 35.89 grams total.
Okay, so let's total everything up and see what we have:
Ebay rotors - 320 grams saved
Corse Dynamic rotor buttons - 160 grams saved
Pro Bolt Titanium rotor bolts - 36 grams
So the total savings is 516 grams (or 1.137 lbs).
As far as removing the steel buttons from the ebay rotors, I tried a couple of different methods. First I tried a carbide burr, but not much luck. I then tried a carbide end mill, but not much luck with that either. I finally ended up using a DeWalt 4" grinder and that made short work of the material which riveted the steel buttons in place. I simply clamped the rotor down to the drill press table and used several layers of Duct Tape to protect the carrier and the disc. After grinding down the lip which secures the rotor button, I used a small punch and pry tool to separate the washer from the main button. The following photos show some of the job.
As soon as the Corse Dynamics button arrive, I'll post further photos and verify how much the aluminum buttons weigh in at.
Ray
I am currently in the process of converting some Chinese ebay front wave rotors - yes, I said it, rotors from China - from semi-free floating to fully-free floating, by using the Corse Dynamics aluminum buttons here:
http://motowheels.com/i-7579497-corse-dynamics-full-floating-rotor-button.html
The goal of this project is to reduce un-sprung/rotational mass from the front wheel of the bike, without breaking the bank. My plan originally was to install the Braketech Axis/CMC rotors, but sadly they are currently unavailable with no real ETA as far as production goes. So I thought this would be a fun project and maybe save a bit of rotating mass.
I'll upload a few photos and try to cover the high points. Once I get my bike back together, I'll comment on how everything performs on the street.
Okay then...
I purchased the rotors via ebay (from ebay user: neverland-usa) for $176 including shipping from China. The rotors arrived very nicely packaged in less than a week via DHL. Here's the seller's facebook page, for anyone who is interested.
http://www.facebook.com/Neverland.fairing
(the following weights are all +/- 10 grams, as measured by me using a little hanging digital gram scale)
Weight of the OEM Yamaha front rotors is: 1400 grams each.
Weight of the Ebay wave rotors is: 1240 grams each.
So far, that's a savings of 160 grams per rotor or 320 grams (.705 lbs) total.
To reduce weight further, I selected two other areas: the buttons that fix the disc to the carrier and also the bolts which attach the rotors to the front rim. Let's look at the buttons first.
Weight of Ebay rotor's steel rotor buttons: 12.2 grams each
Weight of Corse Dynamics aluminum buttons: 4 grams each (according to website)
Now, I don't have the Corse Dynamics buttons here just yet (they are on order), but according to the photo on the website, they are 4 grams each. I don't know if that's 4.0 grams or 4.9 grams or what, but for now, let's go with 4.2 grams (to make the math more simple). Once they arrive, I'll update this posting.
So that's a weight savings of 8 grams per button - times 10 buttons per rotor. So that's 80 grams per rotor or 160 grams total - not to mention having rotors that should be fully free floating (thus less drag from the pads).
So far, our total weight savings is 320 grams plus 160 grams, which is 480 grams. That's 1.05 lbs total off the front wheel! Not too bad.
Now let's look at the front rotor bolts...
When I removed my rotors, I weighed the 5 fixing bolts and found them to weigh in at 39.6 grams total. Probolt-usa.com offers Titanium hardware (currently on order) and they state the weight of their Titanium front brake rotor bolts at 43.31 grams (for all 10 bolts). This is a weight savings of 35.89 grams total.
Okay, so let's total everything up and see what we have:
Ebay rotors - 320 grams saved
Corse Dynamic rotor buttons - 160 grams saved
Pro Bolt Titanium rotor bolts - 36 grams
So the total savings is 516 grams (or 1.137 lbs).
As far as removing the steel buttons from the ebay rotors, I tried a couple of different methods. First I tried a carbide burr, but not much luck. I then tried a carbide end mill, but not much luck with that either. I finally ended up using a DeWalt 4" grinder and that made short work of the material which riveted the steel buttons in place. I simply clamped the rotor down to the drill press table and used several layers of Duct Tape to protect the carrier and the disc. After grinding down the lip which secures the rotor button, I used a small punch and pry tool to separate the washer from the main button. The following photos show some of the job.
As soon as the Corse Dynamics button arrive, I'll post further photos and verify how much the aluminum buttons weigh in at.
Ray