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figured i'd post this on here!! new HIGH RESOLUTION images live AT the premiere!! check 'em out!! over 140 shots included!!

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I just got back from the Seattle MC show & the new bike is impressive. After seeing all three color options, I'm not sure how I feel about the faix "number plate" on the front of the blue one. The red graphic option doesn't have that & it actually looks good without it. Anyone out there with Photoshop, I'd like to see what the blue one would look like with the lower fairing painted like the M1, but in blue instead of black.

Also have to say that the Panigalle 1299 is impressive as usual, & has upped the ante with clutch-free/push-button shifting (up/dwn), as well as having e-damping on the S model (albeit for $25K). In 2-3 yrs, I suspect those features will be std-fare on flagship sportbikes. I just hope sticker prices can stay below $20K. We're getting into automobile territory with some of these price points.
 
i agree they kinda fvcked up the blue one, number plate looks funny, side fairings are okay in that gay-gray but they could have done so much better, guess they're getting rid of the ugly ones 1st :lol
 

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I like the front end, I like the back end. Not sold on the middle, what's with the clunky, chunky cylinder head cover things? Definitely have to toss the exhaust.
 
what's with the clunky, chunky cylinder head cover things?.
this frame design is utilized in motoGP bikes, serves for stiffer frame which will handle the grunt this engine puts out..

frame also needs to hug the engine for added rigidity in cornering, acceleration and coming down off wheelies and such, the engine actually becomes a structural part
of the frame on these bikes, it also allows for the tank to be dropped further into the bike, which gives you room to move up close when cornering at high speeds.

believe me it aint for looks, its all there for a reason, functionality required on motoGP bikes

unfortunately when enthusiasts spend years requesting a motoGP bike for the streets, they never stop to analyze how motoGP bikes are built or why.
central air intake requires the air box to go right through the frame, so it cannot sit low as in older bikes, this means the engine needs to be dropped
further into it, you cannot use the older method of engine mounting as it would just dangle. the fact that it will be hugged by the frame means you
actually need chunky bits to hold it there and that is where the added strength comes from... it still gets attached by 4 points as usual but the result
is a much stiffer package which does not require so much damn welding in place... it is both stiffer and yet still allows for proper flex required..

Suzuki used this style of frames on the Gixxer 1k back in the day and they split down the middle when coming down from wheelies.... not good.. :no

try to look at the bits from a structural point and less from aesthetic points... its a race bike, not something you would keep in a glass box :lol


this picture makes it way easier to understand what is going on... as everything is exposed... plastic bits are there to dress up the package :thumbup

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the only thing that bugs me is the lack of symmetry. makes me sad. :(
should make you happy, from an engineering point of view, you're getting caught up by lack of usual visual hints which allowed you to look past the limitations of previous designs...
which were designed to be road bikes, 1st and foremost... fast as fvck yeah but road-bikes... yamaha is tired of seeing road-bikes running around on tracks :lol

anybody who has spent years looking at pure race-bred bikes is having a wet dream looking at this bike... its your perspective that needs to change.. not the bike :fact
 
not necessarily according to Yamaha's early press release material, that is the air intake (headstock) portion you are speaking of up front. I'm not sure why they've made said distinction,
personally im' not entirely certain that is actually a separate piece, maybe the welds are there to strengthen the chassis? its hard to say from those images. But this design requires a much
stiffer frame than previously and I believe that is the point. The current R1's frame required reinforcement up top closer to the front in order to make her track worthy, apparently this will
not be a necessity for said new frame.

But yes you are correct, this would appear to make it a 4 piece, albeit a much smaller head unit... i've edited comments above as not to confuse :dunno

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see the difference? rather obviously this would result in a slightly weaker design, every Factory race R1 has reinforced double welds all along the top nearing the headstock...

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it certainly does appear Yamaha has been working on this recently, as its accredited to the R6 as a MOTO-gp inspired frame design.. mind you the lateral engine supports are separate pieces, welded to the rest

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The current R1's frame required reinforcement up top closer to the front in order to make her track worthy, apparently this will not be a necessity for said new frame.
Josh Hayes's comments re the new R1 seem to corroborate your assumption since he stated that the new bike did not loose its' composure when they fitted race slicks to it. He said that it just got faster!
 
happy to help.. ohh you meant shut up and go away? thats not gonna happen and you know it!! :D

there was some discussion / disagreement on another forum in regards to statements made by Yamaha, weather or not this truly was trickle down motoGP technology... down to the chassis

it does appear it is exactly that ... likely developed the new YZF-R1 alongside R&D from the 2013 GP racing season :thumbup

Josh Hayes's comments re the new R1 seem to corroborate your assumption since he stated that the new bike did not loose its' composure when they fitted race slicks to it. He said that it just got faster!
aha!! yes you're correct i do remember reading this, wasnt entirely certain that is what he meant.... who said i was an ass though? :hammer:
 

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It was positively confirmed somewhere along the way.
yeah its on one of the videos i think... to be honest thats kinda the way the Gilles rear-set shift lever works, attach point is on this
side of the pivot, closer to the foot... I wasnt a fan of that implementation so i'll wait to see aftermarket units...

QS being an oem piece it may all work just fine, I guess we'll see :dunno

This new frame is gorgeous, just like the MotoGPs M1s
took some time to get all the tidbit info together but yeah i must agree, seeing what its all about, even with such little technical understanding, i must say it looks MINT!... great work :thumbup
 
thought i'd pop in on this thread again to confirm our original suspisions in regards to how the frame is manufactured, it is beginning to sound like the FORMULA ONE boys and Yamaha's early press release material was actually correct, and the frame actually is only a 3 Piece, as the upper portion is actually all one solid piece... if i'm not reading this correctly please feel free to chime in.. :thumbup

from MOtorcycleUSA.com
A CHASSIS THAT BEGS FOR CORNER SPEED

Although the headstock angle and trail numbers are unchanged, the construction and rigidity balance of the entire R1 chassis has been enhanced. Specifically the forward portion of the main frame is cast from a much larger section and is now braced behind the 24% larger airbox.
 
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