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04-05 R1s Are Illegal In California

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#1 · (Edited)
According to this cop that stopped me tonite all 04-05 R1s are illegal. First off, he stopped me for doing 65 in a 55. Not just one motorcycle cop, but 3 of them and a helicopter(sounds wierd I know, and honestly I dont understand). Those of you in the Nor Cal area already know how they feel about sportbikes. Well after he pulls me over he informs and writes me up because my stock headlight is distracting to drivers because of the way it flickers. And also my stock brake light is illegal because it doesnt have a reflector in it like his did. And of course he writes me up for my aftermarket exhaust, Greggs flushies, and fender eliminator. If I were going fast I would not have a problem. But I was doing 65 in a 55 and according to Officer A. Hole he can write me up for doin +1 over. And Officer A. Hole said he is a member of the R-1 forum and he said he wrote a post about the lights on here but yet he didnt know what size my bike was...Hmmm... So Officer Hole I want to just commend you on fighting crime by stopping us wild and crazy guys (damn whipper snappers) on sportbikes that drive 65 in a 55 on the freeway. And good luck stopping those illegal 599cc R1s. Those things are super fast and it takes 3 of you guys and a helicopter to keep up with them.
 
#3 ·
I don't understand your "I've drinking" statement. He didn't say the R1s were illegal. I wasn't saying it literally. He said its against the law in the State of California to have a brake light without a reflector in it. And if you look at your brake light and shine a flash light on it you will see that it doesn't have a reflector in it. All of the newer R1s have the same stock brake light so if you have one yours is no different. So if you were trying to say that you were drinking sober up and try to read it again in a few hours.
 
#4 · (Edited)
u shoulda just rolled on the throtle and forgot about it I guess
 
#6 ·
I was pulled over recently for my headlight as well. The cop told me it was flickering and extremely bright. I was a little annoyed because he flipped a u turn and followed me 3 blocks before he pulled me over. He didn't give me a ticket but he kept me there for about 10 minutes and he looked my bike over several times. My dad who is a cop here in Cali said there starting to really crack down on sportbikes. They have these cops taking classes on what to look for. Any change from stock and its a ticket. Its all about generating that extra :dollar for the city and state. Assholes!!!!!!!!!
 
#7 ·
WARNING - You will not like the following post..........but I don't care......1st Amendment says I can do it and I served my time in the USMC to pay for it....







You do have to have a reflector on the rear - a red one....and the stock rear fender has one at the bottom. Some bikes have a rear brake light that is a reflector and he was checking that....not knowing that the stock reflector is at the bottom of the stock fender. If you cut it off then he got you..........

+1 over - he got you there too. I got stopped doing 82 in a 65 and got a ticket for 75......he did me a favor - probably b/c I did not have an attitude and even aswered his "Do you know how fast you were going?" honestly and said...'bout 80.

Exhaust - he got you there too....it's illegal to modify it - see page 9-4 of your owners manual.

I will have to check the Code for the fender, but if it can throw crap up onto cars behind you.......probably illegal.


Now I am not being a !)ick, but the law is what it is...........and many mods are illegal. We can't cry when we get busted by putting machines on the public roads that don't comply. You have to not get caught or do mods so that they look like they are stock...or kinda stock....

Vendors of aftermarket parts will tell you - fine print - that the parts are not legal for road use........so......take it like a man.



:machinegu :rant :boom
NO WHINING
 
#8 ·
"They have these cops taking classes on what to look for. Any change from stock and its a ticket"

I thought this was a rumor but you are the third person that Ive heard mention that class. Its amazing all the stuff that he was pointing out. He "cut me a break" and only wrote up my exhaust, fender eliminator, brake light and flushies. He could have wrote me up for not having a light illumintaing the tag, my "flickering" headlights and my rear blinkers. And I thought me being polite would throw away the ticket. But I guess it helped me get out of ordering another fender and new blinkers. I guess Im lucky to having gotten stopped by such a nice cop. Riiiiggghhhttt
 
#12 ·
gregg sanders said:
Yeah, they have a plan. To get as much cash from you as possible. Its all about the Benjamins. :dollar
Like the bumper sticker says "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance"

If they pay then maybe they will wise up.........before I have to ride up next to them in the twisties and kich them over the side.............
 
#13 ·
Got pulled over the other day for doing 110 in a 55mph zone. (it was 3 o'clock in the morning) The cop was parked on side of the highway and hit his lights as soon as I flew by him. I saw his lights and immediately pulled over.
It took him a minute to get up to where I stopped :lol, but as soon as he walked up to me he said, "been there, done that. If everything checks out ok, I won't give you a ticket." :confused:

Sure enough, everything came back clean and he said, "slow it down, I don't want you to get hurt out here."

Just as I started to put on my helmet, he came back up to me and said, "do you really want to know why I didn't give you a ticket?"

I asked, "why."

His reply was kinda funny, "because you didn't make me look stupid by trying to chase you!" :lol

In my years of riding, I have only received 1 ticket for speeding (45 in a 25 zone), and I've only been harrassed once....and that's when I was with a group of riders hanging out (parked) downtown.

I suspect my good fortune and right to keep my license has a lot to do with my attitude. I don't lie about what I do, and I'm always prepared to accept the consequences of my actions. :fact
 
#14 ·
I am in the military myself, and I appreciate law abiding citizens like yourself that follow all the laws no matter how small they are. Good on ya Devil Dog. And I also appreciate the fact that you have a bone stock bike (which Im sure you do because you took time to point out page numbers and all in your manual) maybe if we had more people like that the price of aftermarket accessories would go down and crooks like myself can get a better deal on exhausts and other items. ;)
 
#16 ·
I smell bacon!

Seriously if he wrote you up for the reflector, you can stick one to your license plate. Its about $1. at any auto parts store.

The headlight is not illegal if it is stock. Fight that crap.


The exhaust might. The turn signals, can too.

Stick the reflector and exhaust back on and go to CHP to have it cleared. Its only a $10. fix it ticket.

I cant believe our tax dollars are being spent on "classes to help police know what to look for on sportbikes." What a crock of shit.Catch some real criminals endangering p[ublic, like fools with guns or drunk drivers.

The government should encourage the masses to ride motorcycles as they conserve fuel and reduce environmental toxins.
 
#19 ·
LA_R1 said:

Seriously if he wrote you up for the reflector, you can stick one to your license plate. Its about $1. at any auto parts store.

The headlight is not illegal if it is stock. Fight that crap.


The exhaust might. The turn signals, can too.

Stick the reflector and exhaust back on and go to CHP to have it cleared. Its only a $10. fix it ticket.
You can get the reflector caps for the mounting bolts on your license plate. Those make it legal. As far as the exhaust, when I lived in Cali, the rule was that you couldn't modify any emission components, and there was a decible limit to the exhaust, something like 97dB from 7 ft away. I even remember reading about the exhaust law in a magazine a few months ago, where they tested a lot of slip ons for the R6, and they measured all the sound pressure levels to check the legality of them. For cars I think it was 110 decibles when I was in Cali.

I really don't believe the just because you modify something on a factory motorcycle, it is automatically illegal. There are hand built cars that are made street legal, and the whole thing is a modification. Custom Choppers are all one big modification, but they can be street legal. You just have to fit within the limits of the law. For turn signals, there may be a law where the left and right signal have to be at least 12 inches apart. I think I read that one in a Colorado Statute. You have to have a red reflector visible from the rear above a minimum height, and below a maximum height. The front running lights have the same type of regulation. The headlights can't shine higher than a certain height at a certain distance from the vehicle.

I've read about all this in my Colorado Statutes. You should read about it in the Cali Statutes, and then you can print it out and bring it with you to court, if you can fit within any of those statutes. The police don't make up the rules. No matter what they write you up for, if you can prove you are within the statutes in court, there is no way you can be charged with anything. I was in Florida and I had a CO tag on my car, which expired in Dec. In Colorado, you have 30 days AFTER the date of expiration to get the tag renewed. It was January, and I was about to get it done a few days from when I got pulled over for it. He gave me a ticket, even after I told him the rule in Colorado. He tried to tell me it didn't matter because I was in Florida, and I had to go by Florida laws. Bullshit. My car is registered in CO. If CO says my car is legally registered, it's legally registered, no matter where I'm at. I know I have to follow the vehicle regulations for Florida, but not my registration rules. He gave me a ticket anyway. I printed the Statutes I found online, and I couldn't make the court date, so I signed an affidavit and included the printed papers with the information highlighted, and low and behold, I got a check back for $42 from the city. Cops don't know everything about the laws they are enforcing.
 
#20 ·
almost all HD's are mod exaust.. those peeps never get a ticket. whats the deal?? oh yea the judges own Hd's with exaust mods.. nice system we have... :bs and those non DOT brain buckets
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but god forbid you have a flickering ligh you sportbike law breaker you... :rant no offence if you got a HD. i know many who do.
:argue
 
#21 ·
j334 said:
"They have these cops taking classes on what to look for. Any change from stock and its a ticket"

I thought this was a rumor but you are the third person that Ive heard mention that class. Its amazing all the stuff that he was pointing out. He "cut me a break" and only wrote up my exhaust, fender eliminator, brake light and flushies. He could have wrote me up for not having a light illumintaing the tag, my "flickering" headlights and my rear blinkers. And I thought me being polite would throw away the ticket. But I guess it helped me get out of ordering another fender and new blinkers. I guess Im lucky to having gotten stopped by such a nice cop. Riiiiggghhhttt
Dude, man up and pay your shit. Yes, almost anything you do to your bike other than stock is illegal. You don't even have to pay a fine, just fix it and have a cop sign off on it w/i 30 days. You got fix it tickets so what exactly are you bitching about? The fact that once again, a sportbike rider with an illegal bike got caught? Most of the "I'm pissed cause i got a ticket" posts on this forum are from guys that get stopped speeding, one-wheeling or illegal mods. Public streets are not your playground to do as you wish. Wanna ride illegally and not get stopped....go to the track, that's what it's there for. And for those of you that say, "cops should be out there catching murderers and rapists and drug dealers and shit!" Do the job! Don't armchair quarterback about a field you know nothing about or don't do. I'm not saying all cops are fair or "cool" when they stop you but, most go by your demeanor and interaction with them.

:rant

Now that I've said my .02 let's have a :beer
 
#23 ·
I got pulled over for my mods, basically your rear turn signals have to be at least 9" apart. He did not tell me anything about the reflector in the tail light. He did say I had to have side reflectors in the back that were red and he pointed to a cars rear side markers. I'm going to get it fixed get it signed off and take all that crap off again.

It's all a game and the best thing you can do, even though it seems kind of chicken sh!t, is roll with the punches. Sure you can go and try to fight it, then what? People need to learn how to pick and choose your battles.

Cops are going to do what they want to do as long as they are enforcing the "law".

I don't agree with the double standard where Harley's and even some custom cars are way illegal but they usually don't get hassled. Then again I'm sure if we were on a forum for Harley's or custom cars there would probably be the same complaint.

Either way it's gonna happen sooner or later.
 
#25 ·
arrigo13 said:
Dude, man up and pay your shit. Yes, almost anything you do to your bike other than stock is illegal. You don't even have to pay a fine, just fix it and have a cop sign off on it w/i 30 days. You got fix it tickets so what exactly are you bitching about? The fact that once again, a sportbike rider with an illegal bike got caught? Most of the "I'm pissed cause i got a ticket" posts on this forum are from guys that get stopped speeding, one-wheeling or illegal mods. Public streets are not your playground to do as you wish. Wanna ride illegally and not get stopped....go to the track, that's what it's there for. And for those of you that say, "cops should be out there catching murderers and rapists and drug dealers and shit!" Do the job! Don't armchair quarterback about a field you know nothing about or don't do. I'm not saying all cops are fair or "cool" when they stop you but, most go by your demeanor and interaction with them.

:rant

Now that I've said my .02 let's have a :beer
i dont know about where youre at but in Florida if you wheelie on a track day they toss you out!