Okay...so most of you with the '04 R1 should have at leats a couple of thou miles and a couple of oil changes under your belts...just wondering if anyone is still experiencing the sticky clutch problem that was the subject of one of the longest threads I had ever seen!!! Mine still does it when it's cold, but not as bad as before...anyone else? Anyone find a solution for the problem...Anyone think I'm insane for bringing this up again :2bitchsla :rant Let me know what you think!!
r1madman
I had my '04 for about a month and have 500 miles. No problem with the clutch. But, it hasn't been really cold here.
Is the sticky clutch something you get when you start the bike (ie: turn the key, neutral's on but when you start, it's really in gear)? I had this problem on a '96 ZX7. So, I pulling and release the clutch a few times before starting.
Is the sticky clutch something you get when you start the bike (ie: turn the key, neutral's on but when you start, it's really in gear)? I had this problem on a '96 ZX7. So, I pulling and release the clutch a few times before starting.
Mine is still doing it mostly when its cold. Clunks like a bitch and the clutch is still dragging when comming to a stop. Have almost 1,800 miles have changed the oil 3 times, last time used yamalube 10/30. Anyone have any ideas?
I had posted in the other thread, but I'll give you an update since my 600 mile service.
Ever since taking it in for the 600mile service, which is where I told the dealer about the clutch problem, and he was already aware and had a fix for it, I have not had ANY clutch problems whatsoever. It has been like driving a totally different bike. I was getting so frustrated I didn't know if I was going to be able to deal with a problematic clutch like my bike had. It made shifting gears a pain. The dealer knew about the clutch issue, and when I brought it in, he said he would spray the clutch plates, seeing as how the factory didn't soak them long enough. Since driving out of their shop, I have not experienced any clutch problem.
I suggest taking it by your local dealer and telling them to make it right. You have a warranty that should cover defects and problems like this, and my dealer told me they would have to make it right at no cost. Worth a shot if you are experiencing the clutch problem.
my 2¢
-RafCon
Ever since taking it in for the 600mile service, which is where I told the dealer about the clutch problem, and he was already aware and had a fix for it, I have not had ANY clutch problems whatsoever. It has been like driving a totally different bike. I was getting so frustrated I didn't know if I was going to be able to deal with a problematic clutch like my bike had. It made shifting gears a pain. The dealer knew about the clutch issue, and when I brought it in, he said he would spray the clutch plates, seeing as how the factory didn't soak them long enough. Since driving out of their shop, I have not experienced any clutch problem.
I suggest taking it by your local dealer and telling them to make it right. You have a warranty that should cover defects and problems like this, and my dealer told me they would have to make it right at no cost. Worth a shot if you are experiencing the clutch problem.
my 2¢
-RafCon
I don't have any problem with the clutch, it is perfect for me.
Just rumors I heared but it may make sense: Obviously the 04 clutch was installed dry on the 04 (unlike on previous R1) and on some occasions plates got stuck together.
That's why some took the clutch appart and soak it in oil over night.
I'd bet this is a problem of low production numbers and that the clutch on later productions numbers is installed wet.
I'd also bet that after disassembling, soaking and reinstall, the problem is gone for ever. (Those who had this done please report)
Just rumors I heared but it may make sense: Obviously the 04 clutch was installed dry on the 04 (unlike on previous R1) and on some occasions plates got stuck together.
That's why some took the clutch appart and soak it in oil over night.
I'd bet this is a problem of low production numbers and that the clutch on later productions numbers is installed wet.
I'd also bet that after disassembling, soaking and reinstall, the problem is gone for ever. (Those who had this done please report)
After the 600mile service (1000km 'cause i'm in France) nothing noticeable could be feel and my clutch 's still dragging... :dunno
So today i've done the "disassembling, soaking and reinstall", and i'm proud of my try 'cause the problem is gone. And it's a great pleasure to ride my bike, now! :bash
My comments : Yam is wrong with this! A "dry" clutch is not acceptable at this price 13550€uro (eq 16000$) ! And for a high model (best brand racer).
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ErWan
So today i've done the "disassembling, soaking and reinstall", and i'm proud of my try 'cause the problem is gone. And it's a great pleasure to ride my bike, now! :bash
My comments : Yam is wrong with this! A "dry" clutch is not acceptable at this price 13550€uro (eq 16000$) ! And for a high model (best brand racer).
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ErWan
I can't remember anybody having claimed this was acceptable
But this is typical stuff you can be running into: Test bikes were assembled and filled at the factory, so they never had the problem. It happens only on production bikes that may have been sitting assembled for a while.
This kind of problem unfortunately never can be avoided completely.
I bet we will see this problem disappear because they change the process.
But this is typical stuff you can be running into: Test bikes were assembled and filled at the factory, so they never had the problem. It happens only on production bikes that may have been sitting assembled for a while.
This kind of problem unfortunately never can be avoided completely.
I bet we will see this problem disappear because they change the process.
Hello, Juerg! :hellobye
i understand your mind ! i understand why it happen and i just report the case as you've requested!
But i think Yam should communicate soon and not waiting a lot of complaints, before moving...
to let rumour or youngness's pb about a new model sometimes the credibility decreases althought a major promotion effort is done...
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ErWan
Sorry for my approximative english.
:finger
i understand your mind ! i understand why it happen and i just report the case as you've requested!
But i think Yam should communicate soon and not waiting a lot of complaints, before moving...
to let rumour or youngness's pb about a new model sometimes the credibility decreases althought a major promotion effort is done...
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ErWan
Sorry for my approximative english.
:finger
I just a 04 R1 recently. After a week or so, it started to make a lot of noise and clutch started to stick when the engine was not running. Dealer took the clutch a part, and plates were completely dry. Yamaha tech. said that the valve guides were too tight preventing the oil flow, and also added that they have had a number of similar complaints. The dealer soaked the plates in oil, and adjusted the valve and took it for test ride. After 12 miles, the clutch was gone for good. Now we are waiting for the new clutch. Though the dealer tech said that the plates were still dry after the valve adjustment.
Sorry for my approximative english.
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Your English is not to bad. You should hear some of the hillbillies around here that were born into this language.....they make you seem fluent enough to be a English professor.
By the way, 740 miles, and the clutch has just about fixed itself....
:finger [/B][/QUOTE]
Your English is not to bad. You should hear some of the hillbillies around here that were born into this language.....they make you seem fluent enough to be a English professor.
By the way, 740 miles, and the clutch has just about fixed itself....
If the VIN is a good indication of where in the production cycle my 2004 R1 was made, I think it's an early one. The last digits of the VIN are A000008. I took delivery in the first week of April, about a month ago, and have put about 1600 miles on it. I noticed an anoying drag in the clutch before changing the oil at 750 miles but, after that, it became a real pain. After reading posts on this site, I did two things and the problem is almost gone.r1madman said:
1) I warmed up the bike in the evening, shut the engine off, tied the clutch lever to the grip and leaned the bike over to the right side supporting it with my knee against the tank. After holding this position for 15 or 20 seconds, I put the bike back on its side stand and left it alone over night with the clutch lever still tied to the grip.
2) I went for a short ride and got all the way up to 6th gear going about 35 MPH and feathered the clutch - getting the rpm level up arount 5 or 6K.
I did both of these steps twice, and it feels much better.
Another thought is: if you are doing an oil change anyway, perhaps over filling the crankcase, tieing the cluch in the disengaged position and letting it sit over night before draining the oil and refilling with the correct amount would do the trick. With more experiance, I probably wouldn't hesitate to remove the clutch plates and soak them myself, but everything is working so well now that I think I'll just ride.
Re: Re: '04 Clutch Issue...Revisited
My bike has been in the shop for almost two weeks, more than it stayed in my garage for the sticky clutch. They made two attempts to solve it. I already talked to a Lemon Law Autorney. Contrary to common beleif that is out there, m/c's are covered by this law exaclty the same way as the car dealers/manufacturers. The law says if the bike stays in the shop more than 30 days during the first 18 months, or 4 or more attempts to have it fixed, you are entitled to, at your own choise, either the full out-the-door price or a new vehicle.
What do you mean by tieing the clutch? And how lond did you follow this procedure-2?savage1 said:
My bike has been in the shop for almost two weeks, more than it stayed in my garage for the sticky clutch. They made two attempts to solve it. I already talked to a Lemon Law Autorney. Contrary to common beleif that is out there, m/c's are covered by this law exaclty the same way as the car dealers/manufacturers. The law says if the bike stays in the shop more than 30 days during the first 18 months, or 4 or more attempts to have it fixed, you are entitled to, at your own choise, either the full out-the-door price or a new vehicle.
I should have said clutch lever. I used a piece of cotton rope to tie the clutch lever after pulling the lever all the way to the grip. The idea is to get some oil on the friction plates of the clutch and letting it sit there over night. To do this I tried to allow the plates to seperate by pulling in the clutch lever. Then I tipped the bike over as far to the right as I dared and held it in that position for a little while trying to let the warm oil get on the clutch plates. Finally, leaving the clutch lever tied all the way to the grip, I stood the bike back up on the side stand and let it sit over night. The next morning I rode it for a few miles and spent part of the time feathering the clutch in 6th going about 35MPH and part of the time going up and down through all the gears. That night and the next morning I repeated the same steps.
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