is there a way to check the settings on the fly by wire throttle? ie adjust it?

 

The only thing the manual shows to adjust are the cables, nothing else. Slack on the cables are still within spec to the manual.

 

i would wait for other owners to post, it might take longer than it did in the past for the fly by wire to engage. I know r1lover said it's going to take some time to get use to the fly by wire.

 

I was kinda thinking the same thing about the FBW, but it only has done it a handfull of times, and at other times has been very responsive. Just a FYI the 03 definitly has way more low end grunt than the 07 for anyone curious. Took them both out today to feel the difference. Anyway i'm hijacking my own thread. Carry on any other thoughts?

 

Thanks dude... You just saved me from selling my bike.
Sux you guys are having some issues...

 

Same Problems

I have about 150 Miles on mine and I have also had the same problems that you are having. I was riding it around the Apt complex and blipped the throttle at low speed and it cut-out on me. It also cut-out while pullin in the clutch at low speed and blippin the throttle.
The highway issue was around the 60mph and it has happened twice. I was tryin to explain it to my buddies who were with me but they thought I was mistaken. I knew that I rolled on the throttle but it just stayed there and then it finally decided to accelerate. They had convinced me that it was my gloves just slippin or something.
Im glad to see that I am not the only one with some issues so far. I like it so far. I just sold my 04 for this one so I am pleased. There seems to be more power from what I have ridden. I talked to my dealer about the two issues already and he said we will have to wait and see. Like waiting for me to crash and see how I go ape shit on his ass I guess. Keep me informed if you can on the outcome of your issues. Thanks.
Eric

 

I have about 150 Miles on mine and I have also had the same problems that you are having. I was riding it around the Apt complex and blipped the throttle at low speed and it cut-out on me. It also cut-out while pullin in the clutch at low speed and blippin the throttle.
The highway issue was around the 60mph and it has happened twice. I was tryin to explain it to my buddies who were with me but they thought I was mistaken. I knew that I rolled on the throttle but it just stayed there and then it finally decided to accelerate. They had convinced me that it was my gloves just slippin or something.
Im glad to see that I am not the only one with some issues so far. I like it so far. I just sold my 04 for this one so I am pleased. There seems to be more power from what I have ridden. I talked to my dealer about the two issues already and he said we will have to wait and see. Like waiting for me to crash and see how I go ape shit on his ass I guess. Keep me informed if you can on the outcome of your issues. Thanks.
Eric

I just read the R1 test in Roadracing world and Chris Ulrich mentioned having the same problem. " Picking the R1 up off idle I noticed a slight delay in the throttle response; if the throttle was controlled by cables I could easily blame poor fuel injection mapping, but according to Yamaha, the closed loop YCC-T system allows for optimal engine mapping, so that theoretically rules out the map.

Another possible cause could be the fly-by-wireYCC-T system lagging from the time I opened the throttle on the handlebar and when the servo actuated the butterflies, or it could just be the map, theory or not. The main point is that there was a delay from the time I opened the gas until the R1 started reacting"

 

price you pay for buying the 1st gen of a remodel.

 

I hear where you are coming from but if its down to the FBW thats already spent 12 months on the R6.

 

once people get customs maps then you'll know if it's the map or fly by wire throttles...

 

I smell sticky thread soon...

 

probably...I hope it doesn't turn into a major issue.

 

hope i dont have the same problems... Isn't this a warantee issue? bring it back to the dealer and see what they say. They will probably come out with a TSB thingy for it.

 

No problems for me...

 

Keep my 05.............and a K7 will soon be beside it. Sell the one I dont like as much.

 

Hopefully this issue will have an easy fix. Always a risk when you buy a first year bike. However, I am surprised because Yamaha has already used the system on the R6 so one would think they'd be able to implement it on the R1 with no problems. I'm hoping my K7 has no issues.....

If I had to bet on which new '07 bike would have the most problems I put my $$ on the 1098 because it's COMPLETELY new. The R1 and the K7 are "new" but they're actually just upgraded.

 

No problems here, I think you will just need to ride the bike and get used to the FBW...... it reacts differently then a normally controlled bike... There is some limiting of the power in the lower speed range from what I can tell so far.

If you are babying it around during break in you will notice this more. I personally don't think there is an issue with mine, but in the lower speeds you can tell it's watching out for you.

Open it up and drive it normally and I have nothing but great things to say about it.

This new system will likely have some bugs to work out, but those of you saying the 03 has more bottom end are not operating the bike properly... lol Keep in mind that this bike is computer controlled and limited in the lower range. This helps make this bike one of the smoothest bikes I have ridden.

Time will tell for sure, but these are my opinions from riding mine.

 

Mr. Forum police,

I think the R1 limiting the power in the lower speed range is different from it cutting off completely after blipping. I wonder if it's stalling due a glitch in the YCCI. Considering this has happen multiple times one 2 bikes so far I think it's something to look into.

 

There are hundreds of bikes out there already......

I think it's just a few noobs... :lol :lol :lol

 

You're absolutely right! There are hundreds of '07s on the street now but how many of their owners are members of this forum? Only a handful so if they're having any issues none of us would know about it.

 

Well two people have got the attention of this whole site... :lol

I would not consider two people having a similar problem as issue.

 

It may not be an issue for you but it is an issue for them. The fact of the matter is when you "blip" the throttle it should not die. If it is only happening to a few bikes, that is a good thing for those that are not having the problem. But by no means should it be ignored by those that it has happened to.

 

I would hardly consider myself a newbie, I have been riding streetbikes for a minimun of 15 years on the street and track. This is'nt a "issue" yet but from what I can tell and I have aprox. 100 miles on the bike so far it is going to be. My bike is #806 in the country at this time so yes the number of bikes out is limited right now, so we shall see if it becomes an issue later when the masses have this machine. I was just conveying what I have noticed with the bike thus far, and seeking opinions from others.

 

Hey guys, dont worry bout it. This is not going to be a FBW deal. What is being described here is consistent with the FI set-up and can be improved with proper tuning. Many of the K5 GSXR1000s (including mine) died exactly this behavior being described when they left the factory. The problem likes in the air screw settings (the idle mixture) and the EPA tuning to make them run EPA friendly at idle. They are basically super lean.

Setting the idle mixture and making sure the TPS is set up properly (they effect one another) should clear this up.

Yes they should not leave the factory in this state of tune, but you can thank the EPA Nazi's. Someone who has the tech manuals will have to dig up the procedure, but dont use the factory settings.

On the Gix, the factory setting was up to 1/4 turn out, but the tune that worked was about 2 full turns out. The bikes no longer die at idle and the blips at the bottom where no longer 'fluffy'.

 

I agree here 100%

& I didn't mean any disrespect by the noob comment. (whoops :lol)

Like said above most bikes these days are setup too lean from the factory. This would be the result you will get from that condition.

 

Oh...and if anyone adjusts their mixture...keep in mind that the TBs have to be re-synched. just turning them out can result in less than ideal results if you dont make sure they are all synched

 

When at idle and I blipped the throttle yes it died, I had to restart it. Going down the highway no I don't think it died pursay but it definitly had a throttle lag time.

 

My bike is getting a pcIIIusb from the get go.....my 02 R1 was much nicer, more responsive etc with it and no other mods

A pcIIIusb can make even a stock bike feel much better imo

 

I am kinda curious if a remap with a PC would take care of this problem. If so then it would be no big deal cause 90% of people customize these bikes anyways.

 

I have the 06 R6 and the FBW has never had any issues?? :secret:
Strange that it would be a issue on the R1 isnt the FBW the same
on the R1?


I cant tell the difference on the FBW or the cable to be honest

 

isnt the FBW the same
on the R1?


I cant tell the difference on the FBW or the cable to be honest

Actually, no. The YCC-T on the R1 is supposed to be a more advanced system than the one on the R6, measuring twistgrip position more often (1000 times/second) than the YCC-T on the 600.

 

:corn No problems w/ that, but mine had a hard time starting up a couple times.

 

hard starting



i've have had the same problem with the hard starting thing my dealer said one of their guys may have put regular 87 octane. was ur first tank 91 like it was suppose to be or 87

 

Well, I dont know what else to say except that mine is going to be making its way back to the dealer up here in Seattle. Being to lean is common to most bikes we see from the factory but to stall at low RPMs is a little much. The glitch at highway speeds are a random accurance for me but it has been twice so far in a little over a 100 miles. Thats one to many times for me. You can call me a noob all you want and think what you may. I am just stating the issues that I have had so far. I hope that all of your bikes run fine and are not having any of the problems that I have noticed and one other rider in here. Thanks for your comments though.
Eric