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2000 Yamaha R1 - Hard brakes

1.4K views 11 replies 5 participants last post by  mmmbeefy  
#1 ·
Hi guys, this is my first post. I've got a 2000 Yamaha R1 track bike. The bike is great, despite its age it's quite reliable and it's got more power than I can handle :p

The only thing I can really fault is the brakes, not so much the stopping power but rather that the lever is very hard to pull. This not only becomes a problem after a few laps in terms of muscle fatigue but also kills my confidence under braking.

I've had a race technician look at the bike and he has confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the brakes, so being a older bike, that's just how it is, I guess.

So, now my question is, how would this issue be effected if I replace the current master cylinder with a secondhand one from a newer R1?

Thanks Guys :D
 
#2 ·
Yes. The standard non-radial nissins seem to have this problem. The brakes usually work well but lack feeling and are wooden. I changed mine for a Brembo from a newer -05 R1 and it worked wonders. Lots of feel and power. And much cheaper than buying a full spec brembo master cylinder.
 
#3 ·
My concern is more about the physical effort needed, in other words how much force I need to apply to the lever in order to get the bike stopped before the corner. Bear in mind, this is a track bike and I plan to start racing it at the end of the year.

So did you find that the 05 master cylinder also reduced the amount of force needed to pull the brake lever?
 
#4 ·
Actually no. I would say its probably the same. Its more the feeling of it thats completely different and the power of the brakes that feels incresed. But pulling the lever itself requires more or less the same effort.

I can say though, that I put a CBR1000RR radial master cylinder on my old YZF 750 and that became almost feather light to use. A huge difference in that regard. So perhaps that would be better. I myself preferred the feel of the Brembo.
 
#8 ·
That wasn't an answer. If you don't know then assume that it hasn't which means there's 15 years of gunk between the Pistons and body. Do yourself a favor and get them rebuilt. It'll feel even better than just a mc swap.
 
#12 ·
HA!

Anyway, rebuilding the calipers on mine did the trick for me. It wasn't until I popped the pistons that I saw how bad it was in there.