Not the same issue as that was about the CCU.

Are you turning your key all the way to the locked position? If you are you might be missing it and turning it to a new position where the 4 way flashers will work without the key in the ignition. This will drain your battery.

 

Look at page 5-1 and 5-2 in your owner's manual. You will see a "Park" position that your key can go to.

 

Not the first time I've heard this problem, someone even reported that Yamaha are saying it's normal and that the bike should be kept on a tender. :dunno

 

No way it should have to be kept on a tender. Although if it's gonna be left for more than a couple weeks at a time in might be a good idea. I bet its the park option on the key ignition. Idk why bikes here in the states even have that option. It's killed batteries in my previous bikes more than a few times. Not this one yet though.

 

Yes I having the same problems and Yamaha is telling me it needs to be on a trickle charger.. I told them BULLSHIT its a flaw design i'm not accepting that as an answer.

No way a battery show go dead after a day that's nonsense,, They just don't want to admit they have a problem. You might need the UCC flashed and that might fix the problem..

Its the same problem the M-1 is having. CALL YAMAHA AND RAISE HELL..!!!!

 

You might need the UCC flashed and that might fix the problem..

Its the same problem the M-1 is having. CALL YAMAHA AND RAISE HELL..!!!!

The OP doesn't have a CCU as it's a R1 issue not a R1M issue. Read the thread first before posting!

 

This happened to my R1 after 2 weeks vacation - battery dead beyond repair. Dealer replaced it and said they measured a continuous small drain in the OFF position and Yamaha confirmed that it's within normal range. They concluded it was a bad battery and also recommend using a battery tender, which my bike now lives on all the time.

 

When I used to road ride I had a cheap solar panel on the side wall of my house (app. £20) , I parked the bike (various models over the years) there and plugged in the panel to an underseat connection I had made.

It only takes a few moments and saves all that grief and it usually negates any small drainage caused by crap planning, immobilisers etc

Yes, a 2015 bike should not have this issue, but, it does, and you the owner can either deal with it, or put up with damaged batteries while the dealer gives you BS.

It sucks, but we're only the paying customer, right?

 

What's up everyone. I pick up my R1M May 20 around 7 pm that's bc the bike was being update for this issue my dealer told me its with all 2015 R1 and R1M the update was released on May 20 and my bike was one of the first to be updated. They had my bike hook up to the tech computer using the ecu port under the rear crawl it took about 15 min to update but first the tech had to clear out every old Yamaha file he had in the computer. My bike sits off the tender for a week to 2 weeks a time and it starts right up when I want to go for a ride. Maybe you try another dealer I only go to a Yamaha Gold certified dealer.

 

Your dealership most likely didnt put you battery on a charge,

with my bike, they didnt adjust the chain it was 100% taught only because of this forum did i double check my chain slack and
it was 0 inches unbelievable i would have surely broke teeth and or chain.

as for my battery dead, had to put it on a charge,it was dead not because of the ccu issue but because the boneheads didnt charge in per assembly manual, then later installed ccu and
had the ccu recall fix, to show you how fckd up dealorships are the didnt even install the ccu, or set the clock are you kidding me.
check your oil level, check you antifreez level and confirm you chain slack

 

Sorry to hear that about the dealer. My bike came out fine when I pick it up I only have one tech that works on all my Yamaha stuff he evens comes to my house to do work on my bike.

 

Posting this for a buddy of mine, he has the 2015 R1 ( not the M ) and is having the same exact problem. After he purchased the bike he was able to let the bike sit for up to 4 days and the battery not get drained. Now he is unable to let the bike sit for more than two days before the battery discharges its self. He currently has it in with the dealer who will be replacing the battery. Oddly enough the new battery will be a different part number than the original one it came with. I'll see if I can get the part numbers from him. This is absolutely a problem that Yamaha has not owned up to yet. It is ridiculous to buy a production ( non race ) version of a motor cycle and expect it to be tendered anywhere you go. I guess don't expect to take the bike on an over night stay anywhere. Yamaha... this is not going away. Don't piss off your customers and fix the problem.

A link to a post my buddy wrote about this problem:
https://www.facebook.com/oihf8eyfq98wiojdnlk/posts/834927143255570

 

Posting this for a buddy of mine, he has the 2015 R1 ( not the M ) and is having the same exact problem. After he purchased the bike he was able to let the bike sit for up to 4 days and the battery not get drained. Now he is unable to let the bike sit for more than two days before the battery discharges its self.

Not once has my 15 R1 died on me... I've left it in my storage unit for 9 days, while I was traveling for work, and it started right up. So please explain that? :dunno

 

I had this problem about three weeks after I purchased my bike. I put it in park though. If your not careful you can turn the key there without thinking about it. After I charged the battery it has ran fine and fired right up every time. I don't keep it on a charger.

 

All I can tell you is that his did not do it right away either. He is trying to sing up so he can speak to it for himself but the forum is a bit slow with the confirmation e-mail. I'll see if I can loan out my account here to him in the meantime.

 

I'm the buddy that tekkski was referring to in his post further above.

I had no issues with the R1 for the first 3 weeks about. Then it sat for 3 days and I went out to get on it and it almost started but wouldn't and then quickly responded worse like the battery was going dead until it really wouldn't even try to start. I put the tender on it for maybe 45 min or an hour and the bike started up. I rode it for a while that afternoon, lots of starts and stops and put in back on the tender anyway when I returned home to make sure it had decent charge. Rode it the next day for a bit as well but did not put it back on the tender after that. Then it sat for 2 days and when I went back to it, it was completely dead. 100%. I got it to the dealership and they checked the battery, said it was good and charged it. They said that Yamaha support told them that the regular R1 did not have any battery drain "issue" like the R1M had/has. I rode the bike that night and again let it sit for 2 days and it was stone dead again when i went out to get on it. I got it back to the dealership and they re-checked the battery and also checked the charging system. Both tested out ok.

The dealership guy was going back and forth with the guy from Yamaha about what this could be and he told me that what Yamaha said was (despite the following quotes this is not their exact words as I wasn't there, I'm passing on what I was told) "The R1's are like this, it's not a problem. You need to plug it into a tender every night if you really want to be sure it's charged up all the time. Everyone wanted a Valentino Rossi bike and guess what? He needs a new battery every day.". I asked the dealership guy to get this in writing from Yamaha if it's official but as of yet he said they hadn't responded to his request about that. I can't imagine the dealership guy making this up but I can't imagine a Yamaha really having he balls to say that either.

Despite everything being "good" the dealership said Yamaha told them to replace my battery anyway. According to the dealership the battery part numbers are different now from what my original battery was compared to the number for the replacement battery. I don't have those with me right now to post (at work right now) but I'll get them and post them. So I have the bike back now as of yesterday afternoon and will see whats happens now.

I know someone mentioned it up above but i am aware of the parking switch spot with the key and have not been using that position when turning off the bike. Hopefully this battery change out is the fix for me.

 

More than likely its a defective batch. Im surprised how small the battery is compared to my r6. Yuasa/gs makes good batteries. My stock r6 gs lasted me 10 years and 45k miles.
One of the first things i did to my 2015 was check the voltage when its running. 14 at idle. Im happy with that. I know if it dies its not the bike running on it.

 

By the sounds of it, it's only a matter of time before I meet a dead bike in the garage. That will really piss me off especially if Yamaha and/or the dealershit gives me the run around. I didn't even notice the "Park" setting until it was mentioned here but you better believe I'm not using that stupid setting.

 

Ssooo....? What kind of dealer runaround are you talking about? Yes, putting it in the park position is easy to do and now you know about it. So they used a small, lightweight battery...ITS A SPORT BIKE! GET OVER IT! Spend $30 for a tender and use it... Geez ..it aint rocket science!!

 

Has anyone checked the cold crank amps of the original battery before it was swapped out by the dealer?

This has the hallmarks of an original battery being pushed beyond it's limits and giving up the ghost due to excessive load placed on it and not being able to recover fully due to short rides etc.

Just an idea.

 

As a BMW twin owner too and am well versed in the use of a battery tender! :icon_wink: BTW ...I'm really glad Yamaha put the battery in such an accessible spot and used the the smallest battery that would work, which of course saves weight. So guys just go out and spend the $30 and use a battery tender ... nuf said..

 

My battery went flat but I think I put it in park by mistake. Just make sure you haven't clicked one too many when turning the ignition key back. Very easy to do.


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Ok what's up with these battery on 2015 R1. Rode my bike all day sunday. Want to ride my bike today dead battery. Changing it in see what happens. Talk to Romney nothing about the r1 having battery problems. Telling me if it happen again bring it in they like to check the stator and voltage regulator

 

So no one has check the CCA of the original battery then.

 

It's just a piddly 130CCA.

I agree that this battery should be able to start your bike after just a few weeks of sitting but after that all bets are off with a battery of this size. My BMW can't go more than a month without being hooked to a tender and the battery is literally twice the size. All the new bikes have parasitic drain issues.

 

Tenders will ruin a battery also. If there is a parasitic power drain the best thing you can do is unhook the battery. Unfortunately.

 

A good tender like a CTEK won't do that. CTEK comes as standard equipment on a new Ferrari. But yes.. I would agree for over the winter it's best to disconnect the battery.

 

Yeah we're at that stage now in development were the greater customer demands take priority over the more 'traditional' ones.
We all want 'near MotoGP' performance at a pocket price and so a sturdy battery like the 1990's ones are among the first things to be whittled down to a knack's whisker.

If you're worried about the tender causing damage over the winter months, perhaps an isolator switch in the circuit would save battery removal.
But having said that, the smart charger (Acumen) I have used for nearly 6 years has kept the same battery in tip top condition, they're real good and properly smart including a full discharge/recharge cycle every week or so during the winter.

Sure, it sucks that a 2015 bike has these issues, but Yamaha aren't the only ones with these types of complaints.
If you saw the battering a GP battery takes with all the onboard stuff running for the 3 days, it's no wonder they just chuck them and fit brand new ones to avoid all this hassle.

You wanna bike like Rossi & Lorenzo, ya got one lol

 

Buy a lithium battery with quick disconnects and just in plug the bike when you park it in the garage.

A lot quicker than pulling any fuses.

 

When I read all this scary battery stuff I checked the amp draw with key off and it's almost nothing. Just the blinking light. Been three months and no issues whatsoever with my base r1. Starts quick every time. Only ever use the off position for the key. If it wasn't for this forum I would never have guessed there were issues.

Btw if you have managed to kill the battery flat for whatever reason more than likely it won't work very well or hold a charge worth a crap. That's been my experience with lead acid batteries.

I want to see evidence of a new battery being killed in the off position. Not park. Then I'll agree you have an issue.

 

I haven't rode mine in 2 weeks and it just started fine


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I got my bike (R1, not the M) back from the dealership yesterday. They did tell me that Yamaha told them to replace the battery even though it had checked out ok and so they ordered one from Yamaha. What they got is not the same battery as what came in the bike and has new part number I guess. They told me the old part number of the battery that came in the bike was 5TJ-8200-01-00 but that now the part number that shows up as the proper battery for this bike is YTZ-7SHE0-00-00..

Anyway I have the bike back and will see how it goes from here.